"IS" islam being spread by the sword?

[FunctionalAtheist]

TBH I have not followed the 'was' thread that close, and I'm not all that interested (or I should say educated enough) to intelligently engage in the subject discussion. However it just seemed to me to be a lack of focus on current events in the other thread.

So what do you think? Are their islamic elements that practice murder/death/kill to spread their message of peace and paradise TODAY?

 

[samosasauce]

It seems so with ISIS...

 

[paarsurrey]

It seems so with ISIS...

I think they are hindering spread of Islam in the world; by tarnishing Islam while Islam/Quran/Muhammad would never like it.

This is a political group; they are not representatives of peaceful Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

Regards

 

[ChristineES]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

 

[Poeticus]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

The OP is most certainly not judging Islam as a whole. He is asking if the strain of Islam, the flavor of the radical and militant Sunnism that is being practiced by members of the IS is being "spread by the sword"---so to speak. For which I have developed a theoretical analysis here in the following thread using the growth phases of [religious] outward-rigorism and the IS (formerly known as ISIS) as a case study: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/166587-religious-outward-rigorism-isis.html.

 

[Brinne]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

This is very true. I'm friends with some Muslims and they're good, sensible people who get a bad name from some more extremist figures.

Though, the protests by extremists muslims in the western world for Sharia law do frighten me... and the 'Sharia Law' zones I've heard about in the United Kingdom.

 

[ChristineES]

The OP is most certainly not judging Islam as a whole. He is asking if the strain of Islam, the flavor of the radical and militant Sunnism that is being practiced by members of the IS is being "spread by the sword"---so to speak. For which I have developed a theoretical analysis here in the following thread using the growth phases of [religious] outward-rigorism and the IS (formerly known as ISIS) as a case study: http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/general-religious-debates/166587-religious-outward-rigorism-isis.html.

The OP itself, probably not, but the title of the OP can be taken that way.

 

[Poeticus]

The OP itself, probably not, but the title of the OP can be taken that way.

Then it would behoove all to read the OP comprehensively than glance at prematurely structured titles.

 

[ChristineES]

Then it would behoove all to read the OP comprehensively than glance at prematurely structured titles.

I stand by and would not change what I said in my post.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Personally, I'd rather not find out what would happen if Islamic states suddenly had the largest and most advanced militaries on the planet.

 

[paarsurrey]

Personally, I'd rather not find out what would happen if Islamic states suddenly had the largest and most advanced militaries on the planet.

That is only a theoretical premise.

I don't think it would happen.

A movement in Islam for reformation with the name Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat/Community as per the prophecy of Muhammad has started; so please don't take it like that.

Regards

 

[Kilgore Trout]

That is only a theoretical premise.

I don't think it would happen.

I don't think it will either. I hope it never does.

 

[InChrist]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

I believe it is true that all Muslims cannot be judged by the extreme actions of terrorists, yet the goal of Islam is world domination by any means, included the sword. From my research, I think that would in certain instances involve even using the sword against moderate Muslims who could find themselves in a situation of siding with infidels rather than those faithful to Islam, though terrorists.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

I think they are hindering spread of Islam in the world; by tarnishing Islam while Islam/Quran/Muhammad would never like it.

This is a political group; they are not representatives of peaceful Islam/Quran/Muhammad.

Regards

Good point. Perhaps they are spreading bad islam and hindering good islam.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

I'm not judging ANY muslims and did not even ask a question about muslims. I never implied that there is only one possible way to spread an idea. I merely asked if the sword is a tool currently being used to spread islam.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

The OP is most certainly not judging Islam as a whole. He is asking if the strain of Islam, the flavor of the radical and militant Sunnism that is being practiced by members of the IS is being "spread by the sword"---so to speak. For which I have developed a theoretical analysis here in the following thread using the growth phases of [religious] outward-rigorism and the IS (formerly known as ISIS) as a case study: http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...s/166587-religious-outward-rigorism-isis.html.

Thank you!

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

This is very true. I'm friends with some Muslims and they're good, sensible people who get a bad name from some more extremist figures.

Though, the protests by extremists muslims in the western world for Sharia law do frighten me... and the 'Sharia Law' zones I've heard about in the United Kingdom.

I agree completely.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

The OP itself, probably not, but the title of the OP can be taken that way.

Obviously you can judge a WHOLE person by a single sentence you've chosen to interpret a certain way and do not seem to be willing to entertain the idea you made an initial mistake.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

I stand by and would not change what I said in my post.

As I thought, you are committed to the first thing out of your mouth, more afraid of admitting you may be wrong than being wrong itself.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Personally, I'd rather not find out what would happen if Islamic states suddenly had the largest and most advanced militaries on the planet.

Amen! I'd rather not find out what it's like to live under, near, or beside any theocracy.