"IS" islam being spread by the sword?

[outhouse]

Nope

Same here.

 

[Godobeyer]

Your thinking is far closer to that of the members of Isis than that of any non-Muslim. Just sayin'... You have many parallel beliefs, you just disagree on implementation and methodology.

All the yours bad people in the west share almost the same beliefs and culture , so you all the same ?

when the west had this parallel problem (in WW1 and WW2 ) you killed each other more than we killed each other with simple weapon killed more than 60 millions .

Imagine that the world had new war (WW3) will happened soon :

most of the western countries ,had atomic and nuclear weapon is that good or bad for humanity , i can say in this time , it's the end .

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

Saying that IS is a muslim organizaton, and that most terrorists are muslims, is not the same as saying that all muslims are terrorists.

I for one do not believe that all muslims are terrorists. Nor do I believe that all terrorists are musliim. But I do believe that islam shows a greater propensity to produce terrorists organizations that indiscriminantly kill innocent people.

 

[Godobeyer]

NO, you factually seem to avoid real history.

first , excuse me for my weak English , I try my best using simple English words .

I just curious , what real history that we avoid it ?

It seems all muslim's follow history from their religious books. A literal interpretation if you will, with no deviation.

disagree , if all the muslims follow their religious books , that not would be " civil war in Muslims countries " , that would not be "terrorism " ....etc because our Books are forbidden all this .

If someone killed innocent (what ever his religion) by the name of Islam , that's Major sin in Islam , and it's cost the HELL forever .so i cant blame Islam more than who disobey God law .

, and we cant blame all the Muslims , because there is 1.5 billions human is Muslims , and 99.999999 % believed in "killing innocent is forbidden " so the problem in the some of our idiots whom disobey their God .

generalize miniraty (disobeying God ) to majority obeying God , is completely not fair .

I hope so brother, I hope so.

trust me for my experience ,that's for sure, all the Muslims countries (especialy Libya,Syria, Iraq) will remedy from terrorism

 

[outhouse]

Saying that IS is a muslim organizaton, and that most terrorists are muslims, is not the same as saying that all muslims are terrorists.

I for one do not believe that all muslims are terrorists. Nor do I believe that all terrorists are musliim. But I do believe that islam shows a greater propensity to produce terrorists organizations that indiscriminantly kill innocent people.

Exactly.

 

[outhouse]

and we cant blame all the Muslims

No one here is.

 

[outhouse]

generalize miniraty (disobeying God ) to majority obeying God , is completely not fair .

It Is not a matter of obey a god or not.

These are people making choices, for people.


Some think they are justified by their religion, because people interpret the books differently.

 

[Godobeyer]

It Is not a matter of obey a god or not.

These are people making choices, for people.


Some think they are justified by their religion, because people interpret the books differently.

Indeed it is

let me explain why .

since they disobeyed God ,and obeyed scholars whom miss-interpreting what God said .

I will give you exemple how they interpreting :

(btw this is not Quran it's just similar meaning "
"fight and kill the disbelievers of God , whom attacked you "

they (extrem scholars) quote " fight and kill the disbelievers of God" , they skip the the reason " whom attacked you "

 

[LuisDantas]

Saying that IS is a muslim organizaton, and that most terrorists are muslims, is not the same as saying that all muslims are terrorists.

I for one do not believe that all muslims are terrorists. Nor do I believe that all terrorists are musliim. But I do believe that islam shows a greater propensity to produce terrorists organizations that indiscriminantly kill innocent people.

Indeed, one sure gets that impression. And if it is a mistaken one, all the more reason to ask the question.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Same here.

We may have different views, but that is what really matters here.

 

[LuisDantas]

We may have different views, but that is what really matters here.

That is certainly a rather precious and direly necessary first step, but if I may be so bold, taking steps to discourage excesses is also of some importance.

Good will carries one only so far.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Indeed it is

let me explain why .

since they disobeyed God ,and obeyed scholars whom miss-interpreting what God said .

I will give you exemple how they interpreting :

(btw this is not Quran it's just similar meaning "
"fight and kill the disbelievers of God , whom attacked you "

they (extrem scholars) quote " fight and kill the disbelievers of God" , they skip the the reason " whom attacked you "

What is the concept of the unbelievers
Are Christians from the disbelievers
Are the Jews of the unbelievers
Islam demands to fight these
Jews believe that God is one
In the Torah find the best attributes of God
What brought that was new prophet Mohammed
In matters of standardization
Why Muhammad attacked Christians and Jews
Do Christians know Mohammed
That Muhammad attacked Christians and Jews
It is their right to defend themselves today

 

[Smart_Guy]

Indeed it is

let me explain why .

since they disobeyed God ,and obeyed scholars whom miss-interpreting what God said .

I will give you exemple how they interpreting :

(btw this is not Quran it's just similar meaning "
"fight and kill the disbelievers of God , whom attacked you "

they (extrem scholars) quote " fight and kill the disbelievers of God" , they skip the the reason " whom attacked you "

Very good point.

Those extremists seem like they are picking verses that meet their schemes and ignore those do not.

Interpretation is an issue too.

Oh, the above are done by those who hate Islam and/or Muslims too.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Very good point.

Those extremists seem like they are picking verses that meet their schemes and ignore those do not.

Interpretation is an issue too.

Oh, the above are done by those who hate Islam and/or Muslims too.

There is no hatred for Muslims
But the dialogue is
You want to give a different interpretation to the verses of the Koran
The words of the Koran and clear
Fighting
Does not mean peace
* Password fought
The word female relative
* The word terrify
Does not mean roses
Are you able to give us the meaning of these words

 

[Smart_Guy]

There is no hatred for Muslims

I wasn't referring to anyone. I was speaking generally.

 

[paarsurrey]

There is no hatred for Muslims
But the dialogue is
You want to give a different interpretation to the verses of the Koran
The words of the Koran and clear
Fighting
Does not mean peace
* Password fought
The word female relative
* The word terrify
Does not mean roses
Are you able to give us the meaning of these words

Quranic teaching is only for defensive fighting; and that is very natural.

Regards

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Quranic teaching is only for defensive fighting; and that is very natural.

Regards

This is contrary to the words of the Koran
Because the word of God in the Koran is the word of God Offensive and states in the Koran is offensive
Evidenced by the word
Fight
It is an attack, not defense is
And also there is talk of Muhammad
* Received an order to fight the people
Until they say there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of God
If they said blood rescued me
This talk
And also if you want to attack states
I will present to you in the near future, with God's help

 

[niceguy]

You can't judge a WHOLE religion on terrorists; that just isn't fair to Muslims as a whole.

People prefer to think in terms of black & white so, sadly many will do precisely that, it is human nature. The reality are that those that screams the loudest are heard best are a fact, the silent masses are ignored.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

People prefer to think in terms of black & white so, sadly many will do precisely that, it is human nature. The reality are that those that screams the loudest are heard best are a fact, the silent masses are ignored.

My friend
There is a saying
History is written by the mighty
Yes Muslims wrote history with their swords
But we write history with our blood
And the word that we will stay with Abraham Aptdat pursue distorts the name of God
Islam distorts the name of God
Do you think that God commands murder and fighting

 

[paarsurrey]

People prefer to think in terms of black & white so, sadly many will do precisely that, it is human nature. The reality are that those that screams the loudest are heard best are a fact, the silent masses are ignored.

Intelligent, thoughtful and mature persons would side with the silent and peaceful persons.

Regards