Is Israel a Jewish State?

[muhammad_isa]

Hence why everyone should support a 2 state solution, will you join us?

UN Resolution 2735 has been unanimously adopted on 10 June 2024, with Russia abstaining.

Netanyahu said that Israel intends to keep fighting until all hostages are freed and Hamas is dismantled militarily.

In September 2024, Israel escalated war with Lebanon, whilst carrying on its genocide in Gaza.
..so .. why do you ask me this question? Why does the US (and allies) continue to give "ironclad support"
to Netanyahu's govt. ??

The international security council resolution is effectively being ignored.

 

[GoodAttention]

UN Resolution 2735 has been unanimously adopted on 10 June 2024, with Russia abstaining.

Netanyahu said that Israel intends to keep fighting until all hostages are freed and Hamas is dismantled militarily.

In September 2024, Israel escalated war with Lebanon, whilst carrying on its genocide in Gaza.
..so .. why do you ask me this question? Why does the US (and allies) continue to give "ironclad support"
to Netanyahu's govt. ??

The international security council resolution is effectively being ignored.

This is precisely the time for all Muslims to decide if they will support a 2 state solution or not.

Without your support this will continue, and Israel will never be made accountable.

Is that what you want? Because I can guarentee they are hoping so, and if thats the case, the world will stop caring.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Netanyahu said that Israel intends to keep fighting until all hostages are freed and Hamas is dismantled militarily.

Let's hope so. It would be a shame for so many people to die for nothing.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

In September 2024, Israel escalated war with Lebanon, ...

Great lead-in, with no reference to Reuters ...

How Hezbollah attacks displaced 60,000 Israelis ...​

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NAHARIYA, Israel, April 4 (Reuters) -​

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Iranian-backed Hezbollah started firing at northern Israel a day after Palestinian group Hamas' Oct. 7 shock attack in the south of the country. Communities 2 miles away from the Lebanese border were hastily evacuated. [emphasis added - JS]​

But all of this is left unsaid. So, too, from The Times of Israel ...

A year of war: IDF data shows 728 troupd killed. over 26,000 rockets fired at Israel​

and

Nova families gather to mourn loved ones killed when festival became a bloodbath​

or that this is Day 366 with 101 hostages still held in Gaza (35 of them declared dead).

Or that this is the anniversary of the death of 74 year old peace activist Vivian Silver.
May her memory be a blessing.
Bring them home.​

 

[muhammad_isa]

Let's hope so. It would be a shame for so many people to die for nothing.

You miss my point .. Netanyahu takes no notice of the international community, WHOEVER
they may be.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Iranian-backed Hezbollah started firing at northern Israel a day after Palestinian group Hamas' Oct. 7 shock attack in the south of the country. Communities 2 miles away from the Lebanese border were hastily evacuated.​

We know this .. Al Qaeda, ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis .. how many MORE terrorist groups are there to follow?

Go in to Afghanistan, go in to Iraq, go in to Iran .. it's a never ending battle that causes more
and more trouble.

..and all because Israel political regime are "the good guys" ?

 

[Flankerl]

Doesn't that mean Israel isn't an Imperial colony of Russia (1800s-1917) / Britain (1917-1947) / USSR (1948-1949) / France (1949-1970s) / USA (1970s - today)?

Is this the sprout of introspection I am seeing there?

We know this .. Al Qaeda, ISIL, Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis .. how many MORE terrorist groups are there to follow?

Go in to Afghanistan, go in to Iraq, go in to Iran .. it's a never ending battle that causes more
and more trouble.

I wonder what all of these groups and countries have in common.
Alas we will never know.

..ans all because Israel political regime are "the good guys" ?

Ah never mind, so much for the introspection, it's the Yahud who are at fault for everything in the Arab Muslim world again.

Well I guess it's a start, perhaps next time the brief introspection survives for 20 minutes.

 

[Godobeyer]

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Good ol' Itbah al-Yahud~
I think you are all just angry that you ran out of Jews to Itbah.



How did Yezidi minor sex slaves from ISIS slave markets in Syria end up in that open air prison?





So anyway we have in this thread one user from
Scotland
State Religion: Calvinism

another from
Algeria
State Religion: Islam

and one from
Egypt
State Religion: Islam

The jokes write themselves.
It's all just vibes at this point~

Is not Israel regime called all jews to come Israel ? Because it's jewish country.
Israel is only country on the world gave citizenship by religion.

Jews around the world about 17 millions.
So it minority religion/race.

Israel same as ISIS to Islam and Muslims, destroy the reputation of Israel and judaism judaism.

Because leaders of Israel using torah scriptures to justify their crimes, ex: human animals. Promise land of Jews.
If God promised you,i doubt about what promise meaning abd conclusion, because it's obviously the promise land of wars, against this zionist racist regime.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Ah never mind, so much for the introspection, it's the Yahud who are at fault for everything in the Arab Muslim world again..

No, I never said that.
I think that the vast majority of Muslims in the world were appalled by the actions of Hamas
on Oct 7.

The reason why Lebanon and other countries in the Middle East felt "on the side of Hamas", is
because their voice was not being heard. Israel's govt. was becoming ever more oppressive
against them, and there was nothing they could do about it politically.
UN resolutions were being blocked by US ally.

However, enough is enough .. in fact the war that Israel is waging has gone too far already.
We all have to recover from this.. it is NOT just about the security of Israel .. it's about the
security of the whole world (including Israel !).

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

..and all because Israel political regime are "the good guys" ?

And where have I suggested such a thing?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

You miss my point .. Netanyahu takes no notice of the international community, WHOEVER
they may be.

As much as I detest Netanyahu, it is imperative that he stay in office during the war.

In my experience, the world has one standard for Jews, and a different standard for everyone else. In this world, there is nothing certain except death, taxes, and Security Council resolutions against Israel.

Israel has every right to defend itself. And it needs to choose strategies that will bring it complete victory. And if Israel is to reestablish deterrence, then responses cannot be "proportional." Israel needs to tell the world to go pound sand, and do what it needs to do for its survival.

 

[Flankerl]

No, I never said that.
I think that the vast majority of Muslims in the world were appalled by the actions of Hamas
on Oct 7.

The reason why Lebanon and other countries in the Middle East felt "on the side of Hamas", is
because their voice was not being heard. Israel's govt. was becoming ever more oppressive
against them, and there was nothing they could do about it politically.
UN resolutions were being blocked by US ally.

However, enough is enough .. in fact the war that Israel is waging has gone too far already.
We all have to recover from this.. it is NOT just about the security of Israel .. it's about the
security of the whole world (including Israel !).

lmao I saw the footage from the wider Arab Muslim world a year ago.
Don't even try that.


Lebanon? Their voice not being heard?
Israel left Lebanon as per UN agreement.
Lebanon was supposed to demilitarise all civil war militias, including Hezbollah.
They didn't do that.
They also did nothing to stop Hezbollah from attacking Israel for what, 18 years?
So I hope they enjoy consequences of their inaction.
Not even Syria is such a useless country and they threw literal barrel bombs on their own people.


And the Arab world will be able to recover from this.
Once their favourite little pet organisations Hamas and Hezbollah have been neutralised.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Lebanon? Their voice not being heard?
Israel left Lebanon as per UN agreement.
Lebanon was supposed to demilitarise all civil war militias, including Hezbollah.
They didn't do that.
They also did nothing to stop Hezbollah from attacking Israel for what, 18 years?
So I hope they enjoy consequences of their inaction.
Not even Syria is such a useless country and they threw literal barrel bombs on their own people.

Thank you.

And the Arab world will be able to recover from this.

Actually, I think the Arab world has lost their patience with the Palestinians. They want normalcy with Israel. Trade. Alliance against Iran. During the Iranian attack on Israel, the Saudis, Jordan, and many other gulf states provided Israel with advance intelligence. And Saudi Arabia and Jordan were literally shooting down Iranian missiles.

 

[Debater Slayer]

And if Israel is to reestablish deterrence, then responses cannot be "proportional."

That reads to me as outright support for disproportionate responses—which almost invariably kill far more civilians than combatants. I must say it is at least useful, if only for the sake of clarity, that the above is not sugarcoated or presented with some performative preface such as "All civilian deaths are tragic" that would then merely be followed by rationalization or support for the exact same actions that have resulted in tens of thousands of them.

Actually, I think the Arab world has lost their patience with the Palestinians. They want normalcy with Israel. Trade. Alliance against Iran. During the Iranian attack on Israel, the Saudis, Jordan, and many other gulf states provided Israel with advance intelligence. And Saudi Arabia and Jordan were literally shooting down Iranian missiles.

Try asking more Arabs where you live what they think of the above, let alone ones living in the Middle East. The corrupt dictatorships of Jordan and the Gulf are not remotely representative of what most Arabs think about this issue. Many (and I would say most) of us think of their actions and policies regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as treasonous and self-serving, amounting to clinging to their thrones at the expense of their neighbors' blood. Why or how you think that what you said speaks for us about this is beyond me, but the only reason I responded to the above is that I didn't want to leave the inaccuracies unchallenged or neglect to point out that the policies you listed (mainly accepting normalization without significant changes) were or are done by dictatorial governments that only represent themselves and the fringe minorities who agree with them on this issue.

Iran is indeed an enemy to many Arabs, but everything you said about wanting "normalcy with Israel" is overwhelmingly at odds with what most of the Arab world actually thinks about normalizing with Israel at this time. Before most people could support that, there would need to be significant changes and reform, the most important of which would be recognition of a sovereign Palestinian state.

 

[muhammad_isa]

As much as I detest Netanyahu, it is imperative that he stay in office during the war..

It's his declared war .. the excuse for the genocide his govt. is guilty of is Oct 7, where they
allowed a "prison breakout" .. it might have even been intentional.

In my experience, the world has one standard for Jews, and a different standard for everyone else.

That's absurd. The victors of WWII have supported Israel time and again, to the point of
invading Middle Eastern nations.

Israel has every right to defend itself.

Of course it does .. how about increasing security, rather than the carpet-bombing of their
occupied territory?

Israel needs to tell the world to go pound sand, and do what it needs to do for its survival.

You are mad, if you think that the world will be a better place through what Israel is doing
at the moment, IMO.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Actually, I think the Arab world has lost their patience with the Palestinians..

I don't .. they see the behaviour of Israel a greater threat than any terrorist organization.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

That reads to me as outright support for disproportionate responses—which almost invariably kill far more civilians than combatants.

That is just not true and makes no sense to me. If a disproportionate response targets military HQ, installations, and persons, how does that mean a larger civilian to militant death rate than a proportionate response?

In my experience, it is when wars go one forever that the most civilians are killed. The problem is directly related to ***** footing around, instead of being in it to win. For example, the US was not willing to do what it took to win in Vietnam, and in response to that policy about 2 million civilians were killed (both sides).

If you aren't in it to win, surrender.

 

[Flankerl]

Actually, I think the Arab world has lost their patience with the Palestinians. They want normalcy with Israel. Trade. Alliance against Iran. During the Iranian attack on Israel, the Saudis, Jordan, and many other gulf states provided Israel with advance intelligence. And Saudi Arabia and Jordan were literally shooting down Iranian missiles.

Only the rulers, the masses are so deluded that they want to go to war believing they could win.
I'd find that sad if I cared enough.


Also may I may I????

It's his declared war .. the excuse for the genocide his govt. is guilty of is Oct 7, where they
allowed a "prison breakout" .. it might have even been intentional.

Oh a prison, that's grim.
Are there many prisons in your area where Yezidi (well can be any minority) sex slaves from Iraq and Syria are imported into the prisons?
How about prisons with shopping malls and water parks?
After all the prison inmate needs a place to relax after raping their minor Yezidi sex slave they bought in Syria.

That's absurd. The victors of WWII have supported Israel time and again, to the point of
invading Middle Eastern nations.

Cool.
Name the war.

Of course it does .. how about increasing security, rather than the carpet-bombing of their
occupied territory?

Sadly the IAF has no bombers to carpet bomb an area.
You can donate money if you want that to change.

You are mad, if you think that the world will be a better place through what Israel is doing
at the moment, IMO.

Perhaps the Arab Muslim states could've stopped Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis and the Islamists in Iran.

Alas they never do anything and only cry when someone does it for them.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's his declared war .. the excuse for the genocide his govt. is guilty of is Oct 7, where they
allowed a "prison breakout" .. it might have even been intentional.

It's really hard to have a rational discussion when someone doesn't use the language properly. There is no genocide of Palestinians going on. Genocide means the conscious deliberate attempt to kill every single last member of an ethnic group or nation. No one is doing that.

Think for a second. Israel routinely drops leaflets warning that they are going to bomb, so that civilians can evacuate. They do this despite it destroying the advantage of surprise. THINK. That's no way to run a genocide. Do you think they are just stupid? If Israel were really wanting to kill all the Palestinians, they would already be gone.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I don't .. they see the behaviour of Israel a greater threat than any terrorist organization.

Sure. That's why Saudi Arabia and Jordan shot down Iranian missiles headed to Israel, because they think Israel is the worst thing on earth.