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is it god is everywhere?

Renji

Well-Known Member
I believe that He is not everywhere but He can be everywhere(we call Him the Omnipotent one, and not Omnipresent). He is on one place. That's why on the Lord's prayer, Jesus said " Our Father who art in Heaven"... And He don't have to be everywhere, unless needed for He can see us in Heaven with His eyes which sees everywhere. "The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Watching the evil and the good."Proverbs 15:3;)
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
In Psalm 137:9 David asks the rhetorical questions "Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?" The answer is, nowhere, for God is everywhere...

In Jeremiah 23:24: "Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD." God fills heaven and earth.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I believe that He is not everywhere but He can be everywhere(we call Him the Omnipotent one, and not Omnipresent). He is on one place. That's why on the Lord's prayer, Jesus said " Our Father who art in Heaven"... And He don't have to be everywhere, unless needed for He can see us in Heaven with His eyes which sees everywhere. "The eyes of the LORD are in every place, Watching the evil and the good."Proverbs 15:3;)

For a God who is everywhere, it is reasonable to expect Him to be in Heaven also. God doesn't have eyes. However God is able to see without eyes and His presence allows Him to see everywhere.

Here Jehovah says that he is with Israel in the four corners of the earth:

Isa 41:9 thou whom I have taken hold of from the ends of the earth, and called from the corners thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant, I have chosen thee and not cast thee away;
10 ¶ Fear thou not, for I am with thee; be not dismayed, for I am thy God; I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
There seem to be ample quotes in the above replies.
However I am always uncomfortable to rely on quotations with out the added benefit of reason ( an equally God given asset)

I would ask the question ... Is there a place God couldn't be? or one where we could be, and he could not?
Did he not say he is with us always?
 

Renji

Well-Known Member
For a God who is everywhere, it is reasonable to expect Him to be in Heaven also. God doesn't have eyes. However God is able to see without eyes and His presence allows Him to see everywhere.

Here Jehovah says that he is with Israel in the four corners of the earth:

Isa 41:9 thou whom I have taken hold of from the ends of the earth, and called from the corners thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant, I have chosen thee and not cast thee away;
10 ¶ Fear thou not, for I am with thee; be not dismayed, for I am thy God; I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

You should not take my post literally. I am not after the eyes like ours, (flesh or stuff like that) it is symbolical;)
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
If God is Creator (and I think the bible establishes that very early on), then god is everywhere, for the creator is always present in the creation.
 

ayani

member
I would ask the question ... Is there a place God couldn't be? or one where we could be, and he could not?

Did he not say he is with us always?

i've heard it argued that God is not in hell. when asked why this is the case if God is supposed to be omni-present, one Christian answered "well, He simply chooses not to be there".

that is interesting. in the pantheistic or panentheistic view of God, God is just everywhere, in all things. God is less willful, more simply present, in an abstract way. to a pantheist, the notion of God "choosing not to be somewhere" would perhaps sound foreign and contradictory.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
i've heard it argued that God is not in hell. when asked why this is the case if God is supposed to be omni-present, one Christian answered "well, He simply chooses not to be there".

that is interesting. in the pantheistic or panentheistic view of God, God is just everywhere, in all things. God is less willful, more simply present, in an abstract way. to a pantheist, the notion of God "choosing not to be somewhere" would perhaps sound foreign and contradictory.
That only works if hell is a place. Perhaps hell is a state of non-existence, in which death prevails. Since God is Being and Life itself, God could not, by definition, be in that particular state.
 

Heartfelt

Member
That only works if hell is a place. Perhaps hell is a state of non-existence, in which death prevails. Since God is Being and Life itself, God could not, by definition, be in that particular state.

I have to agree with the fact that hell 'could' be a place of only spiritual dwelling or eternal death...but in Revelation Satan, his angels, and those whose name isn't written in the Lambs book of life will be cast in the 'lake of fire'...it doesn't give where that may be but if you look at the very center of our earth it's supposed to be molten lava/liquid/ and it says that Jesus DESCENDED into hell to conquere it for us...so death and hell have been taken out of the possibility rhelm for Christians who have walked the Romans Road and said the sinners prayer;forever sealed as a child of God...so given all this perhaps hell is a place in fact that we are just not looking at in the correct Biblical prospective...for every question we have there is an answer biblically.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I have to agree with the fact that hell 'could' be a place of only spiritual dwelling or eternal death...but in Revelation Satan, his angels, and those whose name isn't written in the Lambs book of life will be cast in the 'lake of fire'...it doesn't give where that may be but if you look at the very center of our earth it's supposed to be molten lava/liquid/ and it says that Jesus DESCENDED into hell to conquere it for us...so death and hell have been taken out of the possibility rhelm for Christians who have walked the Romans Road and said the sinners prayer;forever sealed as a child of God...so given all this perhaps hell is a place in fact that we are just not looking at in the correct Biblical prospective...for every question we have there is an answer biblically.

That is of course true .... however not every Biblical statement is true.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I have to agree with the fact that hell 'could' be a place of only spiritual dwelling or eternal death...but in Revelation Satan, his angels, and those whose name isn't written in the Lambs book of life will be cast in the 'lake of fire'...it doesn't give where that may be but if you look at the very center of our earth it's supposed to be molten lava/liquid/ and it says that Jesus DESCENDED into hell to conquere it for us...so death and hell have been taken out of the possibility rhelm for Christians who have walked the Romans Road and said the sinners prayer;forever sealed as a child of God...so given all this perhaps hell is a place in fact that we are just not looking at in the correct Biblical prospective...for every question we have there is an answer biblically.[/quote]
Revelation is an account of a dream. Dreams are highly allegorical in nature. The things we see in dreams are usually not indicative of the things themselves, but are symbols for other things in our lives. for example, a house in a dream refers to your body, not a real house. Therefore, the "lake of fire" is very probably an allegorical symbol for some poorly-understood aspect of the spiritual nature of humanity.

as for your last sentence, I don't believe that for one second. The Bible was never intended to be a self-help guide.
 
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