paarsurrey
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Well that is a myth, not a reality.
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Is it not a greater sign than raising one from dead?
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Kori
Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
All a myth is: A legendary or heroic story. Myths can be true. Where did I learn that? A Catholic Priest that taught a Religion Course I took in College. No it wasn't a Religious Collage.
paarsurrey
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But the one I commented upon is not a reality. Right?
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Kori
Dark Valkyrie...what's not to love?
I pray to Odin, the Allfather, as well as the other Norse Deities. They are as real to me as Cat-girls are to Otaku.
Rajina
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I think this is a mistranslation. The correct translation is:
O you who have believed, respond to Allah and to the Messenger when he calls you to that which gives you life. And know that Allah intervenes between a man and his heart and that to Him you will be gathered. [8:24]
limaa means 'to that which' and yuheekum means 'gives you life'
I think this is also a mistranslation. The correct translation is:
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.[5:32]
The word Ahyaa literally means 'to give life', but from the context we know that what meant here is 'to save life'
Again mistranslation.
That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected.(23:100)
How do we understand from this verse that 'Allah has prohibited returning of dead.
First of all Allah doesn't prohibit himself from doing anything. Secondly Allah doesn't prohibit us from doing something which we are not capable to do.
However in the verse :
And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.(3:49)
It is clearly said that Isa alaihissalam will give life to the dead with the permission of Allah. Here we cannot assume the meaning 'save life' based on the context. I didn't understand the meaning of 'quicken the dead'. Can you please explain this to me?
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Did you see it ever happen in the real life.
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The Bible, of course, disagrees with you, as do the reliable eyewitnesses to Jesus resurrection, men and women ready to die for their faith in the resurrection.
paarsurrey
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Not a single one. Please
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1 Corinthians 15:3-8 lists these eyewitnesses; "For among the first things I handed on to you was what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; and that he was buried, yes, that he was raised up on the third day according to the Scriptures; and that he appeared to Ceʹphas, and then to the Twelve. After that he appeared to more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still with us, though some have fallen asleep in death. After that he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. But last of all he appeared also to me as if to one born prematurely." Again, these eyewitnesses were so convinced about Jesus resurrection they were willing to give their lives in defense of their faith.
Corthos
Great Old One
Nope! I don't believe in the resurrection scenario.
I also don't believe in supernatural fortune telling (at the moment), as I stated in my previous post (#31). =)
Parts of the Avesta delve into it, but that's when it also starts going into a lot of stuff that Asho Zarathushtra never talked about... I guess that's what happens when no one could understand a language that the original founder spoke, and then try to recover their religion from the ashes of time and destruction long past. =/
DawudTalut
Peace be upon you.
Peace be on you.
1=If we assume, Prophets and their teachings does not exist, do you find a better world, better idea of rights, better quenching innate [rust can diminish it] desire for God?
2=There are differences b/n true and false Prophets and Messiahs.
-----False ones are given warm welcome within a corrupt society;
-----They support status quo;
-----They do not stand against rooted evils.
-----True ones: "....the upholders of the Unity of God who founded great religions of the world such as Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Zoroastrianism etc. If we examine the lives of Moses as, Jesus as or Muhammad sa and other similar prophets who claimed Divine origin, we shall invariably discover that none among them ever represented a well-established and popular religious order. Theirs was a lone voice of revolution. Invariably they based their claims on revelation and advocated a new philosophy demanding a completely different way of life. They preached values which were at odds with the prevailing customs and practices. They always emerged as harbingers of a new order and dared to challenge the prevailing religious authorities of the time. They appeared at a time when the dominant religions of the age had already split into sects and schisms, and fought among themselves for gaining greater domination over the ignorant masses. In such an age, as described, it was the emergence of a new Divine messenger which resulted in a state of forged unity among his opponents, who for the time being forgot their own differences and mustered their forces to put up a joint colossal resistance against the newly introduced Divine order. They presented a united front of opposition, exhibiting violent hostility. The Divine messenger on his part had no human support whatsoever......"
Ref: https://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/part_3_section_1.html
3=Why the followers of original teachings of all religions are good human?
paarsurrey
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It is for this that G-d chose to Converse with Mirza Ghulam Ahmad so that by his trustfulness, the truthfulness of Zaratushtra for the Zoroastrians is brought into light. In this way the present becomes witness of the past.
This is one aspect of the Prophecy about Musleh Maud.
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Corthos
Great Old One
Let me tell you something, @paarsurrey... I appreciate your faithfulness and your respectfulness, even if I don't agree with your beliefs. =)
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Thanks and regards