Is it right that Israel Folau should get the sack for his 'Hell awaits gay people' comments?

[The_Fisher_King]

The Australian rugby player is to be sacked after a social media post in which he also said "drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters" should "repent" because "only Jesus saves".

In a statement, Rugby Australia said the post "does not represent the values of the sport and is disrespectful to members of the rugby community", adding that its integrity unit had been "engaged on the matter".

Israel Folau has made similar posts before and managed to escape punishment.

More on this story here: Israel Folau: Rugby bosses meet with player and position is 'unchanged'.

What do you think about his sacking?

 

[Rival]

No, it's his opinion and he's allowed it.

 

[Brickjectivity]

" 'Israel Folau fails the NRL's inclusiveness culture, which is a policy strongly supported by the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC),' " said ARLC chairman Peter Beattie.

They should require him to be polite when he is working, but they shouldn't be telling him what to think.

 

[BSM1]

The Australian rugby player is to be sacked after a social media post in which he also said "drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolaters" should "repent" because "only Jesus saves".

In a statement, Rugby Australia said the post "does not represent the values of the sport and is disrespectful to members of the rugby community", adding that its integrity unit had been "engaged on the matter".

Israel Folau has made similar posts before and managed to escape punishment.

More on this story here: Israel Folau: Rugby bosses meet with player and position is 'unchanged'.

What do you think about his sacking?

They ought to make him wear pink socks...

 

[BSM1]

" 'Israel Folau fails the NRL's inclusiveness culture, which is a policy strongly supported by the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC),' " said ARLC chairman Peter Beattie.

They should require him to be polite when he is working, but they shouldn't be telling him what to think.

Uhh...it's Rugby...you expect a Rugby player to be "...polite when he's working..."?

 

[Father Heathen]

Uhh...it's Rugby...you expect a Rugby player to be "...polite when he's working..."?

As a professional player he is a public face for the organization, so it's not unreasonable for them to expect people to behave accordingly. They're big boys who should have enough sense to know when to hold their tongues. Gotta have standards.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Uhh...it's Rugby...you expect a Rugby player to be "...polite when he's working..."?

I have never watched Rugby, but yes they can of course require that. They're sacking him because of something he tweeted about his religion not because of something he said on the field. They're being Thought Police.

 

[Father Heathen]

No, it's his opinion and he's allowed it.

Of course people have the right to express their opinion, but employers also have the right to sever ties with those who violate their policies.

 

[Father Heathen]

I have never watched Rugby, but yes they can of course require that. They're sacking him because of something he tweeted about his religion not because of something he said on the field. They're being Thought Police.

More like the image police, as professional players represent their brand.

 

[Rival]

Of course people have the right to express their opinion, but employers also have the right to sever ties with those who violate their policies.

What if I had a company that was right-wing oriented and I sacked people for saying gay people should be allowed to marry? There'd be hell on and people would tell me I am being this that and the other; if people are allowed to say gays can marry, people should be allowed to say that hell awaits them, otherwise it just becomes an echo chamber for leftists and isolates conservatives.

 

[Jumi]

I don't think that's enough. Isn't that what many Abrahamic religions subsects believe today.

 

[BSM1]

I have never watched Rugby, but yes they can of course require that. They're sacking him because of something he tweeted about his religion not because of something he said on the field. They're being Thought Police.

As a professional player he is a public face for the organization, so it's not unreasonable for them to expect people to behave accordingly. They're big boys who should have enough sense to know when to hold their tongues. Gotta have standards.

I think you guys missed the point biggedly...a Rugby player's "work" is smashing into big guys and trying to jerk a ball out of their hands. I would be surprised if anyone would be expected to be polite in those circumstances. Sometimes you need to stop taking yourself so seriously and enjoy the ride....

 

[Father Heathen]

What if I had a company that was right-wind oriented and I sacked people for saying gay people should be allowed to marry? There'd be hell on and people would tell me I am being this that and the other; if people are allowed to say gays can marry, people should be allowed to say that hell awaits them, otherwise it just becomes an echo chamber for leftists and isolates conservatives.

If your company had a policy against expressing views that conflict with the companies conservative, religious views while one is representing the company, sure.
That aside, some views are more valid and respectable than others based on how rational and substantiated they are.

 

[Father Heathen]

I think you guys missed the point biggedly...a Rugby player's "work" is smashing into big guys and trying to jerk a ball out of their hands. I would be surprised if anyone would be expected to be polite in those circumstances. Sometimes you need to stop taking yourself so seriously and enjoy the ride....

So you're saying he sent those tweets out while chasing balls around and rolling around on the field? As a professional player and public figure, he still represents the league off the field.

 

[Brickjectivity]

More like the image police, as professional players represent their brand.

They recruited a beefcake. They got a beefcake.

 

[BSM1]

So you're saying he sent those tweets out while chasing balls around and rolling around on the field? As a professional player and public figure, he still represents the league off the field.

No, I was quoting the OP.

 

[Father Heathen]

They recruited a beefcake. They got a beefcake.

"He's physically fit so we should expect and tolerate stupidity." What sound logic.

 

[Brickjectivity]

"He's physically fit so we should expect and tolerate stupidity." What sound logic.

He didn't make them famous. They made him famous, and its their responsibility.

 

[Father Heathen]

He didn't make them famous. They made him famous, and its their responsibility.

And they took responsibility by taking disciplinary action.

 

[Audie]

" 'Israel Folau fails the NRL's inclusiveness culture, which is a policy strongly supported by the Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC),' " said ARLC chairman Peter Beattie.

They should require him to be polite when he is working, but they shouldn't be telling him what to think.

Haha, they wont include him coz he aint inclusive.