Is it sin?

[Sheldon]

There is only one way, one truth. And Jesus is that way,

Well for a change we have a very falsifiable claim, and that I'm afraid that is demonstrably false.

 

[kjw47]

Yeah, I still do my way and my truth different than you. And thus I do God differently than you.

Not a wise path to choose. Jesus was clear--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God. Takes much effort-hard study of his written word, it never stops. It is also clear--proof of ones love for Jesus is by obeying him( John14:15-24)= every teaching, there is no pick and choose.

 

[kjw47]

Thanks, but save your prayers, and make a donation to a cancer research charity.

They give poision to those who have cancer-Radiation and Chemo. Would be better to close down the corporations who are selling all of us that cancer.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well for a change we have a very falsifiable claim, and that I'm afraid that is demonstrably false.

Well, that applies to its core. One way, one truth and it is not just so for God. Any claim of one way, one truth is false in all versions for the everyday world. And it has been so for all recorded history. It might change in the future but so far this one holds for a part of the everyday world:
"Man is the measure of all things: of the things that are, that they are, of the things that are not, that they are not." And no, it is not an absolute claim. It is limited to some parts of the everyday world and that includes you and I.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Not a wise path to choose. Jesus was clear--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God. Takes much effort-hard study of his written word, it never stops. It is also clear--proof of ones love for Jesus is by obeying him( John14:15-24)= every teaching, there is no pick and choose.

Yeah, you can't change me and i can't change you.

 

[kjw47]

Yeah, you can't change me and i can't change you.

There is 0 chance for those who will not obey Gods son. If you have a different religion then i guess you would not believe that. I will pray on your behalf.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

There is 0 chance for those who will not obey Gods son. If you have a different religion then i guess you would not believe that. I will pray on your behalf.

Yeah, and I hope you change your mind. It goes both ways.

 

[kjw47]

Yeah, and I hope you change your mind. It goes both ways.

God reveals himself to those who obey his son. I will never change. I will pray on your behalf.

 

[DNB]

Every body lacks self-discipline, so I pointing this out is pointless. I mean you lack self-discipline in understanding people. Also being promiscuous does not mean you lack self discipline. One lacks self discipline only if they desire to do something but can't.

No, that is an assumption. They might only want sex for sex sake with regards to sex, but can be very deep in other aspects of life, such as their careers. Your black and white view of them is extremely superficial because you lack any sort of nuance.

Depending on whether they are in control of their passions or not. I know people who are promiscuous who are the most chilled out people, abhor anger. Don't see what is wrong with excitement. If you want to live a boring life without excitement then shame for you.

Nothing wrong with vulgarity. I do have a problem with airhead bimbos though, but most people who I know and are promiscuous are highly intelligent people, so bimbos they are not.


I don't see how they are incompetent at all. Clearly they are not incompetent when it comes to finding people to have sex with or in the bedroom (or other places) itself.

There is nothing wrong with gluttony depending on the consequences of it. I have seen many spiritual people who are gluttons.

Once again, all you have stated is opinion. Provide something substantial please. Otherwise you are just throwing words to the wind. Clearly you think that many people are to be brushed with the same stroke and you arrogantly assume that one action always precludes a specific type of whole personality of the individuals who engage in them. That is willful ignorance. I suggest you grow up.

You need to smarten up and quit trying to sound intellectual or enlightened. Almost every comment that I made went right over your head.
Half the statements that you asserted were just oblivious observations that I would expect from a 16 year old - I might've shared them at that age.
Grow up, and don't compare promiscuous behavior with the search for excitement, it's nothing more than two horny people acting like irresponsible children.
Anyhow, like I said, everything that I'm saying seems to be going right over your head - you appear to lack depth to your thoughts?

 

[DNB]

Are you making personal comments, an act banned on RF.

You know **** all about my parenting skills so feel free to guess with prudish bias

Arguably Christine, that would be the implication of not guiding one's kids into a morally sound path. I was speaking hypothetically that that is the impression that one could leave another with, when they simply state: '...their vocation is up to them, even if it includes the pornography industry...'
i.e. a caveat is required - '...i will do my best to deter them, but ultimately, there is only so much that I can responsibly do to interfere...'

 

[Sheldon]

Not a wise path to choose. Jesus was clear--Man does not live by bread alone, but by every utterance from God. Takes much effort-hard study of his written word, it never stops. It is also clear--proof of ones love for Jesus is by obeying him( John14:15-24)= every teaching, there is no pick and choose.

I believe I have explained I am an atheist. I am not going to be persuaded by quotes from a man made book. Why would I?

 

[ChristineM]

Arguably Christine, that would be the implication of not guiding one's kids into a morally sound path. I was speaking hypothetically that that is the impression that one could leave another with, when they simply state: '...their vocation is up to them, even if it includes the pornography industry...'
i.e. a caveat is required - '...i will do my best to deter them, but ultimately, there is only so much that I can responsibly do to interfere...'

No, you made a direct accusation

 

[Sheldon]

They give poision to those who have cancer-Radiation and Chemo. Would be better to close down the corporations who are selling all of us that cancer.

Medical advancements in the treatments of various types of cancers have saved countless lives, including several of my immediate family members. One of whom is undergoing treatment right now. You are talking nonsense.

 

[Sheldon]

You need to smarten up and quit trying to sound intellectual or enlightened.

Like your posts you mean? Well done, and kudos on achieving that comprehensively.

 

[Sheldon]

Almost every comment that I made went right over your head.

What is amusing is that you think this is a fault in those reading your religious verbiage.

Half the statements that you asserted were just oblivious observations that I would expect from a 16 year old - I might've shared them at that age.

Where did it all start to go wrong?

Grow up, and don't compare promiscuous behavior with the search for excitement, it's nothing more than two horny people acting like irresponsible children.

You seem very angry and frustrated by the idea others are enjoying themselves, in a way you think you shouldn't. I find this is often the case with puritanical sexual prudes.

Anyhow, like I said, everything that I'm saying seems to be going right over your head - you appear to lack depth to your thoughts?

Or maybe others just don't buy into the unevidenced, pernicious bigotry you've been indoctrinated into, as if it is an immutable truth.

 

[kjw47]

I believe I have explained I am an atheist. I am not going to be persuaded by quotes from a man made book. Why would I?

Then live life well now. you are trading 70-100 years now maybe for trillions x trillions x trillions etc of never ending years of life in perfect health, not aging like now, etc. in Gods kingdom. That is not a wise choice by any mortal.

 

[kjw47]

Medical advancements in the treatments of various types of cancers have saved countless lives, including several of my immediate family members. One of whom is undergoing treatment right now. You are talking nonsense.

.This system is almost done. It will not get better only worse for earths inhabitants. Man is destroying Gods earth. God will step in.

 

[Sheldon]

Then live life well now. you are trading 70-100 years now maybe for trillions x trillions x trillions etc of never ending years of life in perfect health, not aging like now, etc. in Gods kingdom. That is not a wise choice by any mortal.

Do you think repeating your unevidenced superstitious claims will somehow persuade me?

 

[Sheldon]

.This system is almost done. It will not get better only worse for earths inhabitants. Man is destroying Gods earth. God will step in.

I - AM - AN - ATHEIST...so I don't believe any of that. What's more it has absolutely nothing to do with my post you quoted:

Medical advancements in the treatments of various types of cancers have saved countless lives, including several of my immediate family members. One of whom is undergoing treatment right now. You are talking nonsense.

 

[kjw47]

Do you think repeating your unevidenced superstitious claims will somehow persuade me?

No probably not. But the end of this system is coming soon. Mans misuse of science and math is destroying Gods creation, He will step in soon. It will NOT get any better until he does it will continually grow worse for mortals on this planet. Mankinds ONLY remaining hope is the arrival of Gods kingdom rule.