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Is It Time For The 25th Admendment?

esmith

Veteran Member
So Biden cancles his campaing for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
So Biden cancels his campaign for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Amendment is used to remove him for office.
Me thinks you complain too much.
I thought your candidate is so good, nobody can touch him, why are you moaning?
Is it because he is old, his health is going, he can't string a sentence together and he is deteriorating mentally?
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.

I think the prevailing narrative is that he could not manage another 4 years, and he has just over 4 months of a presidency left. Those are two different things.

I've been on the fence about whether Biden stepping down was a good idea or not, and I still think it's risky, but given Republican reactions to it now, I am starting to think it is a good idea. There seems to be real fear about Kamala Harris being the nominee.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The DNC has now shown that the DNC leadership is the biggest threat to Democracy. Biden won the democratic vote in the Spring Primaries by a landslide. Now a small group of insiders, have negated the Democratic will of the people, associated with the Spring vote. It just coronated one of their own insiders, and the rank and file had no say or another vote. This Cabal is not showing any interest in preserving Democracy, by having a new vote. The biggest threat to democracy is now the DNC leadership. Trump allowed everyone to run against him. He reflects the will of the majority and not just a few insiders.

I am not saying Biden should not have been replaced due to his declining health. Rather the DNC base should have been asked to have another vote before the Convention, to see if they have another preference. At the very least a polling. Even if the majority of a Democratic vote. also picks Harris, this ritual can help save Democracy, and not just allow an elite cable to over ride a Democratic vote.

If the DNC propaganda machine continues to call Trump a threat to democracy, tell your leaders the way they did this swap was a threat. Where was the Democratic redo? That is a look to everyone's dark future, if they get away with this. The working class will see this. The deadbeats may not care either way, as long as they get their's.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
So Biden cancles his campaing for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.
Frying pan / fire.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I think the prevailing narrative is that he could not manage another 4 years, and he has just over 4 months of a presidency left. Those are two different things.

I've been on the fence about whether Biden stepping down was a good idea or not, and I still think it's risky, but given Republican reactions to it now, I am starting to think it is a good idea. There seems to be real fear about Kamala Harris being the nominee.
Anyone who is not alarmed about kamala
is a fool or an enemy of america.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
So Biden cancles his campaing for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.
If Biden leaves the office before his term is up, Harris IS President. In other words, the incumbent in the upcoming election. Incumbency is one of the factors that improves a candidates chances in the race, so her chances will probably improve by at least a couple of points, possibly more.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
So Biden cancles his campaing for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.

It might benefit Kamala as it will put the spotlight on her as POTUS. Folks will see what they may be getting for the next four years.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I think the prevailing narrative is that he could not manage another 4 years, and he has just over 4 months of a presidency left. Those are two different things.

I've been on the fence about whether Biden stepping down was a good idea or not, and I still think it's risky, but given Republican reactions to it now, I am starting to think it is a good idea. There seems to be real fear about Kamala Harris being the nominee.
These are my thoughts, almost exactly.

I've been on the fence a bit about it, and then I watched the Republican meltdown and I'm starting to think it was a good move. They're really, really freaked out right now.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I think the prevailing narrative is that he could not manage another 4 years, and he has just over 4 months of a presidency left. Those are two different things.

I've been on the fence about whether Biden stepping down was a good idea or not, and I still think it's risky, but given Republican reactions to it now, I am starting to think it is a good idea. There seems to be real fear about Kamala Harris being the nominee.
"I think the prevailing narrative is that he could not manage another 4 years"

I disagree. The prevailing narrative is his current status because he bombed the debate, his mentality isn't good, fears that he couldn't beat Trump in November... So we need someone else.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
I disagree. The prevailing narrative is his current status because he bombed the debate, his mentality isn't good, fears that he couldn't beat Trump in November... So we need someone else.

I don't think we need to go through a President stepping down based on those two criteria. I've not seen evidence that Biden cannot do his job currently.
 
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