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Is It Time For The 25th Admendment?

We Never Know

No Slack
In other words, "she's incompetent because she's a woman of color".

Look at the past of Bidens 2020 campaign promises...

"Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden committed Sunday to picking a woman for his vice president if he were to win the party’s nomination."

"Biden also said that he would try to make his Cabinet reflect the demographics of the country and would choose a black woman to serve on the Supreme Court if a vacancy were to open during his presidency"

Do they reflect DEI for VP and the Supreme Court? In a way they do.
Or he just said them to get the nomination/votes and it worked.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
Look at the past of Bidens campaign promises...

"Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden committed Sunday to picking a woman for his vice president if he were to win the party’s nomination."

"Biden also said that he would try to make his Cabinet reflect the demographics of the country and would choose a black woman to serve on the Supreme Court if a vacancy were to open during his presidency"

Do they reflect DEI for VP and the Supreme Court? In a way they do.
Or he just said them to get the nomination/votes and it worked.
That sure is not competency based.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Look at the past of Bidens campaign promises...

"Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden committed Sunday to picking a woman for his vice president if he were to win the party’s nomination."

"Biden also said that he would try to make his Cabinet reflect the demographics of the country and would choose a black woman to serve on the Supreme Court if a vacancy were to open during his presidency"

Do they reflect DEI for VP and the Supreme Court? In a way they do.
Or he just said them to get the nomination/votes and it worked.
So? Is there anything wrong with that? Does it mean they only picked them because of that, neverminding any qualifications?

No big deal. It's about time more women of color are in the game of representation. Their absence has always been suspicious.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
And I like straight talk, and to not play distinction sans difference.

Unsure what you mean by "distinctions sans difference," but my problem with referring to Harris as an intellectual featherweight who is unpopular and a DEI hire is that without backing those claims up, they are just claims, void of substance, and in "North American Politics," partisan, especially when considering those who don't feel the same as foolish or American enemies.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So Biden cancles his campaing for the presidency.
We don't know if he was forced out by the party elite putting the party before the country but my opinion is yes.
The corrupt DNC has said that if Biden continues he will lose the election and cause many down ballot Democrats to lose their election thus losing the Senate and a giving the Republicans bigger majority in the House.
Now if they try and spin it that it is because of health reason (which it is obvious Biden has lost it) then either he steps down as President voluntarily now or the 25th Admendment is used to remove him for office.
Thoughts....
1) Biden can step down for any reason he wants,
eg, retirement, becoming a Walmart greeter, failing
health, improving health, getting his freak on full time.

2) Political parties are all about leaders ("elites" as
you & @Estro Felino love to call them) & members
debating, bickering, maneuvering, voting, & eventually
settling upon candidates they run & finance. This is
normal, democratic, perfectly legal, & done by both
(& other) parties.

3) There is no requirement of any kind that a candidate
who leads before their party's convention must be the
one the party runs for election.

4) The 25th Amendment appears premature. Biden
doesn't appear to be faltering in Presidential duties.
My biggest problems with Biden are things he did
when younger, & still does, eg, support civil forfeiture,
support Israel's brutal oppression of Palestinians.

5) Republicans appear quite upset that Bide is being
replaced.
- Fear that Trump's prospects have worsened?
- Their entire campaign was against faults attributed
to a former candidate, but not the one running?
- Willing to once again attempt subversion of
democracy by allowing only Biden to run for Prez
as a Dem.
- More worried that Vance was a poor choice as VP.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Unsure what you mean by "distinctions sans difference," but my problem with referring to Harris as an intellectual featherweight who is unpopular and a DEI hire is that without backing those claims up, they are just claims, void of substance, and in "North American Politics," partisan, especially when considering those who don't feel the same as foolish or American enemies.

Are you denying she was picked because she is a woman? She very well may have been the best qualified woman but Biden had to fulfill his campaign promise to pick a woman if given the nomination or even his own party would have shunned him.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
2) Political parties are all about leaders ("elites" as
you & @Estro Felino love to call them) & members
debating, bickering, maneuvering, voting, & eventually
settling upon candidates they run & finance. This is
normal, democratic, perfectly legal, & done by both
(& other) parties.
Bravissimo.
They will finance those who can satiate their thirst for billions. Since the sale of warfare make you become a billionaire. And they can't live without billions. It's like oxygen.
They will finance a warmonger. Not a pacifist. ;)
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Are you denying she was picked because she is a woman? She very well may have been the best qualified woman but Biden had to fulfill his campaign promise to pick a woman if given the nomination or even his own party would have shunned him.

I am denying that. She was picked as a qualified woman. The "DEI" bit is specifically targeted towards minority hires in order to suggest they are unqualified and hired ONLY because of their minority status. Being qualified defies that narrative.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Bravissimo.
They will finance those who can satiate their thirst for billions. Since the sale of warfare make you become a billionaire. And they can't live without billions. It's like oxygen.
They will finance a warmonger. Not a pacifist. ;)
It's like you & the other poster share one brain!
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I am denying that. She was picked as a qualified woman. The "DEI" bit is specifically targeted towards minority hires in order to suggest they are unqualified and hired ONLY because of their minority status. Being qualified defies that narrative.
As I stated she may have been the best qualified woman. Biden picked her(a woman) because that was a promise he made to trying get the nomination.
IOW... You do this for me, (give him the nomination) and I do this for you, (pick a woman for VP.)
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
As elsewhere noted I'm Chinese, female.

So your analysis is flawed.
What I explained is exactly what the phrases "hitting the pc boxes" and "DEI" pick are meant to convey. They're routinely used as veiled racism/misogyny around here.
Perhaps you aren't aware of that.
And it's way late here. Bye
NIte nite! Sweet dreams!
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
As I stated she may have been the best qualified woman. Biden picked her(a woman) because that was a promise he made to trying get the nomination.
IOW... You do this for me, (give him the nomination) and I do this for you, (pick a woman for VP.)
Do you believe that Vance was the best
qualified person to become VP?
Or did Trump pick him merely because
Vance would get him more votes?
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Are you denying she was picked because she is a woman? She very well may have been the best qualified woman but Biden had to fulfill his campaign promise to pick a woman if given the nomination or even his own party would have shunned him.
The deal was picking a qualified woman. Because they often get overlooked because they're a woman.
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
As I stated she may have been the best qualified woman. Biden picked her(a woman) because that was a promise he made to trying get the nomination.
IOW... You do this for me, (give him the nomination) and I do this for you, (pick a woman for VP.)

So Biden, responding to the popular notion that maybe we ought to have more female leadership in the country, delivered, and (since we elect our leaders based on the quality and qualifications of their actions-or that's the idea anyway!) we voted him in.

That doesn't exactly seem nefarious and "DEI" in the derogatory use of the term.

It seemed that Biden delivered on something the public popularly wanted (more female leadership) and we have a qualified female VP and potential President.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
I actually liked Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy. What ever happened to it's author? Where'd he go?
 
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