McBell
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You didn't answer the question.
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Is Jesus Christ God?
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Well, then, it doesn't stop the Angels from being God, either. (Only following your line of reasoning.)
And, btw, God is a title, not a last name.
djhwoodwerks
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Nowhere in the Bible, is the Word of God ever called the "Bible", why do you call it a Bible?
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Yes, I know God does have a family of spirit Sons. Jesus is God's firstborn. (Colossians 1:15) But God himself is not several persons combined into one person. He is "one Jehovah", just as he says at Deuteronomy 6:4.
djhwoodwerks
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Which one of those 68 scriptures does "JESUS" claim, "I am the Son of God"?
djhwoodwerks
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Must be beliefs you can't explain?
How many threads do we need about Trinitarianism, especially attacking it? You're basically going to agree with it or not. The people on both sides (well, there's actually more than two sides, as the non-Trinitarians don't agree on what or who Jesus is) tend to be set in their ways. For a Trinitarian, the most we can do is try to clear up misconceptions about it.
Anyway, yes - I believe in the Holy Trinity and that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. As such, I worship Him as God, Lord and King.
Anyway, yes - I believe in the Holy Trinity and that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate. As such, I worship Him as God, Lord and King.
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
You are correct, and where does all of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit dwell?
Col 2:8-10 (ESVST) 8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, 10 and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.
Doesn't that make "ONE" God??
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
Jn 14:13-14 (ESVST) 13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
Jn 15:16 (ESVST) 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
What is Jesus claiming in these verses?
Jn 15:16 (ESVST) 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
What is Jesus claiming in these verses?
Melchizedek was called the son of god too and is the advent of the order.
why not worship that form too?
i don't focus on western forms of christianity
Revelation 16:12
And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
http://www.nasrani.net/
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6723-gnosticism
He may have been a certain foreshadowing of Christ, but not Christ Himself.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The Trinity (at least the official doctrine) does not have the Persons as "aspects." Each Person is fully God -- not just one aspect.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
None of this is cogent to the post it refers to.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Because that's what it is -- a collection of writings. Since the texts were written in Hebrew and Greek, and "bible" is a Latin derivative, I wouldn't expect the bible to call itself a "bible."
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Why does that matter? Hitler was a despot. Does it matter that he never called himself a despot?
abraham called him lord and jesus was made in his image. melchizedek was the pattern and jesus was fashioned after this order.
melchizedek was called the king of righteousness
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews 7&version=KJV
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G5010&t=KJV
a person is a terran and has a distinctive personality. god is not a person vs another person.
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
God is exodus 3:14
Yes, but he's not Christ. He's a "type of Christ", a foreshadowing. Like how the Israelites were the foreshadowing of the Church, which is the Spiritual Israel.
sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
No, a human being is a Terran. Jesus was a Terran. Jesus was fully a human being. Jesus was also fully God. God became Incarnate (Jesus). Person refers to a particular identification. Human beings are persons, because they are particular, identifiable and differentiated individuals. Like the Persons of the Trinity. The Father is particular from the Son, the Father is identifiable, and differentiated from the Son.