Is July 4th evil

[anotherneil]

Why would the Anglican Church see it as evil?

Because the head of the Anglican Church is the British monarchy, which lost the 13 colonies in the American Revolution; the 4th of July is about its celebration; for that reason, I don't see why it wouldn't see it as evil.

 

[anotherneil]

Why would the Anglican Church see it as evil?

Just out of curiosity, why did you only ask me to explain why the Anglican Church & not King James bible adherents?

 

[Rival]

Because the head of the Anglican Church is the British monarchy, which lost the 13 colonies in the American Revolution; the 4th of July is about its celebration; for that reason, I don't see why it wouldn't see it as evil.

Lol we really don't care. It's not even in our minds.

As to your second quote, it's because I'm an Anglican. KJV Onlys would have no issue with it either, as far as I can tell.

 

[anotherneil]

Lol we really don't care. It's nkt even in our minds.

As to your second quote, it's because I'm an Amglican. KJV Onlys would have no issue with it either, as far as I can tell.

Ah, "we" as in Anglicans.

The reason "KJV Onlys" might have an issue with it is because their king lost his 13 American colonies in general, and another reason would be because they also lost it to the US Constitution, which has as a Bill of Rights with a First Amendment with the first two clauses that don't go in their favor: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
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[Valjean]

I'm not religious.

These are good secular values, as well.

Not sure how my post prompts for these questions.

Celebrating a particular nation smacks of nationalism and political hubris.

 

[anotherneil]

These are good secular values, as well.

How would it be rephrased to be in secular terms?

Celebrating a particular nation smacks of nationalism and political hubris.

So? You say this as if it's a bad thing. Do you think there's something wrong with colonists fighting to liberate themselves from being enslaved by a monarch? Do you think there's something wrong with abolitionists fighting to end slavery?

BTW, this response from you didn't make things clear for my question.

 

[Spice]

Ah, "we" as in Anglicans.

The reason "KJV Onlys" might have an issue with it is because their king lost his 13 American colonies in general, and another reason would be because they also lost it to the US Constitution, which has as a Bill of Rights with a First Amendment with the first two clauses that don't go in their favor: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
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If Brits hated every country they once had control of they'd be close to hating the world.

 

[Rival]

Ah, "we" as in Anglicans.

The reason "KJV Onlys" might have an issue with it is because their king lost his 13 American colonies in general, and another reason would be because they also lost it to the US Constitution, which has as a Bill of Rights with a First Amendment with the first two clauses that don't go in their favor: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

King James didn't lose anything.

We don't care about that in this country. US independence is barely brought up. It happened 200 odd years ago. It also has nothing to do with religion.

 

[anotherneil]

King James didn't lose anything.

King James is dead.

We don't care about that in this country. US independence is barely brought up. It happened 200 odd years ago. It also has nothing to do with religion.

I'm a US American and I'm pretty familiar with my own nation's history.

 

[Rival]

King James is dead.


I'm a US American and I'm pretty familiar with my own nation's history.

Yes, but I'm a British Anglican and I am answering you that US 4th July is on literally nobody's radar. It's meaningless to us.

Anglicans do not see it as evil. We simply don't care about it because it's not a religious holiday.

 

[anotherneil]

Yes, but I'm a British Anglican and I am answering you that US 4th July is on literally nobody's radar. It's meaningless to us.

Anglicans do not see it as evil. We simply don't care about it because it's not a religious holiday.

I wasn't asserting that the Anglican Church considered 4th of July as evil; I was merely saying that if they did, then I would understand why.

 

[Eddi]

Because the head of the Anglican Church is the British monarchy, which lost the 13 colonies in the American Revolution; the 4th of July is about its celebration; for that reason, I don't see why it wouldn't see it as evil.

Nobody in the UK is bothered about the American war of independence

 

[Secret Chief]

Do others Christians or religions think it's wrong?

This Buddhist doesn't; in fact I'm looking forward to it - especially once the exit polls are announced!

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's a Patriotic celebration of our country right?But don',t Jehovahs Witnesses reject it?,Do others Christians or religions think it's wrong?

I don't see why celebrating the birth of a nation that in comparison had greater freedom would be "evil." The reasons for this revolution are very well articulated in the Declaration of Indepence, which is available onlihne, so I don't feel the need revisit all that.

Jehovah's witnesses just make it a major point not to have anything to do with the government. They also won't fight during wars, don't vote, etc. They are the only religion I know of that doesn't observe holidays, although new cults are born every day.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

This Buddhist doesn't; in fact I'm looking forward to it - especially once the exit polls are announced!

Er, we don't vote on July 4th, just so you know.

 

[Secret Chief]

Er, we don't vote on July 4th, just so you know.

Er, we are, just so you know.

 

[SalixIncendium]

It's a Patriotic celebration of our country right?But don',t Jehovahs Witnesses reject it?,Do others Christians or religions think it's wrong?

What would we do if it the 4th of July was evil? Would we just change the calendars to go straight from the 3rd directly to the 5th?

 

[Left Coast]

That's right. He witnessed, spoke up for, taught about his heavenly Father. and his relationship with Him. Clarified some things. Threw out the money-changers. No record of him going to birthday parties, not even his own. Nothing about celebrating anything patriotic about Israel either.

There's no record of him using electric lights either, but I'm assuming you have no general problem doing that.

 

[sun rise]

Its evil to some people with PTSD.(all the fireworks)

Our four-legged furry person totally agrees with you. We now have a "thurnder shirt", vet provided tranquilizers and CBD oil. Hopefully this year we don't need to spend hours trying to stop her from digging a den in our hardwood floor etc.

 

[YoursTrue]

There's no record of him using electric lights either, but I'm assuming you have no general problem doing that.

lol, no, you're right about that. On the other hand, the loud banging on July 4th can affect some people badly, also their animals. (Oh well...I am not going to stop it, but thanks for the reminder so I'll put ear plugs in...) But naturally the thrill of the fireworks, even though thousands get hurt each year obviously makes up for any inconvenience and harm setting those fireworks might bring about.