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Is not raising minimum wage racist?

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
I know there are kids who need a first time job.

Who on earth starts a family when all they have is a minimum wage job?

That is irresponsible.

People who lose their salaried jobs.

People who graduate college being promised jobs and aren't able to find them.

P.S. Families aren't just with children. Families include couples too.

It isn't realistic. I'd like to see you try to live off of it.:cover:
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Once again, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken chit.

You can't climb out of poverty making 10.10 an hour.

Obama is jerking you all off people!

This country needs real jobs not pretend ones!

Then create them and give them to the people who need them. The millions of people who need them.
 

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Rev,

The idea that minimum wage jobs were for only for teens stopped being reality a couple decades ago. And it is not coming back any time in the foreseeable future.

I don't think he gets that. Or he is just plain ignorant of reality
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Then create them and give them to the people who need them. The millions of people who need them.

The jobs are there. The only problem is no one is qualified to fill them. Is it because no one wants to work at these jobs, or is it no one has informed high school students that these good paying jobs are available, or is it that people are just too lazy to apply themselves? You guess is as good as mine.

Three million open jobs in U.S., but who's qualified? - CBS News
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
As long as we keep using the word racism we will always be separte from each other, myself I am sick of hearing the word.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
I was watching MSNBC yesterday, the Ed show particularly and the host said not raising the minimum wage was racist.>>

Hard to say, Many minorities are affected, but so are the whites. If you want someone to blame, Put it on the simple minded House republicans. Their plot to win the next election is a bad economy, and they don't care how many are unemployed, homeless, living on the streets, and the thousands of the proud helpless who take their own lives because there is no relief in sight.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
I was watching PMSNBC yesterday, the Ed show particularly and the host said not raising the minimum wage was racist.

What do you all think?

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psychoslice

Veteran Member
Just like animals humans will always not like whatever they don't like, skin colour, race whatever, its life, I prefer to be white, but that doesn't mean I hate black or any other colour skin, I don't like most black music, but again it doesn't mean I hate black people who make that music, we need to grow up and admit we all think differently.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
So why would not raising the minimum wage be racists. Since it seems that the term racist is generally taken to mean actions taken against African-Americans.
People at or below the federal minimum are:

  • Disproportionately young: 50.6% are ages 16 to 24; 24% are teenagers (ages 16 to 19).
  • Mostly (78%) white; fully half are white women.
  • Largely part-time workers (64% of the total)
Now that group represents 4.7% of the nation’s 75.3 million hourly-paid workers and 2.8% of all workers. In 1979, when the BLS began regularly studying minimum-wage workers, they represented 13.4% of hourly workers and 7.9% of all wage and salary workers. (Bear in mind that the 3.55 million figure doesn’t include salaried workers. But BLS says relatively few salaried workers are paid at what would translate into below-minimum hourly rates. Also, 19 states besides the District have minimum wages higher than the federal standard; people who’d be minimum-wage workers in those states aren’t included in the 3.55 million total.)
above from;
Who makes minimum wage? | Pew Research Center


So, let me tell you where I stand on the issues being brought forward by Obama and the Democrats. "Look at the shinny objects" In other words, 99% of the rhetoric being espoused is for political purpose only, because they do not have any achievements to run on and they are afraid that their base will not show up for the 2014 elections.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Well it appears that not only the KKK are a racist hate group. I do believe that there is a group that advocates just as much hate as the KKK. So let's not fool ourselves, there are many hate groups out there.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/new-black-panther-party

Were you assuming I was turning it into a white vs. black issue...so you decided to go find something that would cast negative light on another group of a different race....

The issue wasn't white vs. black...but you took it there...The issue was racism. The fact of the matter is it exist and not wanting to talk about it doesn't mean that racism itself goes away. That's the point I was making......:rolleyes:
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Were you assuming I was turning it into a white vs. black issue...so you decided to go find something that would cast negative light on another group of a different race....

The issue wasn't white vs. black...but you took it there...The issue was racism. The fact of the matter is it exist and not wanting to talk about it doesn't mean that racism itself goes away. That's the point I was making......:rolleyes:

No, your photo sure was a white vs black issue. So you are the one that made it so. You did not need to exhibit the photo to get your point across, but you did. Why did you do so if you didn't want to make a vivid point by using the KKK to emphasis your point?
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
No, your photo sure was a white vs black issue.


I did no such thing. You drew inference from what was posted. I can't be held responsible for your ill-conceived perceptions considering the only thing I did was use current news to show that racism is a conversation worth having instead of avoiding it. I didn't have much to say about your post because it's obvious racism exist on all sides of the coin...again...which is why I said it's a discussion worth having instead of avoiding....


You did not need to exhibit the photo to get your point across, but you did.

So wait...now I'm being precluded from posting pics. The point I was making was that the conversation is still worth having considering the issues of race and race relations are still there.

Why did you do so if you didn't want to make a vivid point by using the KKK to emphasis your point?

The question would be...do you even understand the point I was trying to make. I mean..I've explained it two or three times now in reference to who I originally responded to.....:facepalm:
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I'm thinking if we really want to help folks, this country needs jobs that pay more than minimum wage.

Raising minimum wage is a bandaid not a working solution.

Just because the wheels on this wagon need to be fixed, doesn't mean that we shouldn't work on the traces too.

In other words, nobody is claiming that raising minimum wage is the only thing that needs to be done. It is just one part that needs to be fixed in this whole big mess of an economy.
 
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