Is prophecy really a case of synchronicity?

[Rachel Rugelach]

Could it be that it is the collective consciousness of humankind that creates reality? That quantum mechanics has much to do with prophesied events?

While reading Dean Koontz's novel The Big Dark Sky, I came across the following passage:

"Synchronicity. A Jungian coincidence," the stranger said.
"A what coincidence?"
"Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist and psychologist. He theorized that meaningful coincidences reveal that our collective consciousness creates reality at least to some degree. Together we make reality, and effect can come before cause -- that kind of thing."
"Sounds like a load of horse****," Spondollar said.
"Yes, doesn't it? Here's an example I like. Edgar Allan Poe wrote a story about a shipwreck, in which starving sailors killed and ate a cabin boy named Richard Parker. Fifty years later, there was a shipwreck uncannily like that in the story in every detail -- and the starving sailors killed and ate a cabin boy named Richard Parker. Hundreds of thousands of people read that story over those fifty years and were horrified by it. Is it somehow possible that unconsciously they dreamed the story into the fabric of reality?"

And another passage from Koontz's novel:

"Wendy, have you ever heard of Carl Jung, or the word synchronicity?"
"No."
"Jung's theories have a lot in common with what science -- quantum mechanics -- reveals about the nature of reality."
"Like that helps," she said, still clutching her phone.
"Incredible coincidences are more common than we think. They're a part of the weave of the world. Effect can come before cause."
"I'm a waitress, you know. Dessert doesn't come before the entrée."
He smiled. "The famous British actress Beatrice Lillie was once onstage in Ontario, Canada, performing in Noël Coward's This Year of Grace, the entire cast lined up to one side of her. She was singing 'Britannia Rules the Waves,' when she mistakenly began to sing the second verse twice, before moving to the third. She realized what she was doing but had to carry forward with it. The cast froze in place instead of moving to center stage -- which was when the biggest and heaviest arc light fell from above, onto the very spot where they should have been standing. They were saved from serious injury, perhaps even death."

I haven't checked out the Beatrice Lillie story, but I did check our the E.A. Poe story and found that it was true:

The story of cannibalism that came true

Edgar Allan Poe was a prophetic master of macabre twists and turns. But most uncanny is the book he wrote about a ship wreck – and how life imitated art, writes Hephzibah Anderson.

www.bbc.com

Here's another case of "Is it prophecy? Or is it synchronicity?" from the same website:

"...In the case of John Brunner, a sci-fi author who grew up in an era when the word ‘wireless’ still meant radio – the specificity of his imaginings retains its power to startle. In his 1968 novel Stand on Zanzibar, for instance, he peers ahead to imagine life in 2010, correctly forecasting wearable technology, Viagra, video calls, same-sex marriage, the legalisation of cannabis, and the proliferation of mass shootings. Equally compelling, however – and even more instructive – is the process by which Brunner constructed this society of his future and our present."

The 1968 sci-fi that spookily predicted today

In the first of BBC Culture’s new series on fiction that predicted the future, Hephzibah Anderson looks at the work of John Brunner, whose vision of 2010 was eerily accurate.

www.bbc.com

What do you think? Are we humans, to some degree, unknowingly responsible for the creation of reality?

 

[Apostle John]

From experience I would say Poe was fed that story by way of influence from the spirit realms, who know the future before it happens and can influence minds without the vessel/individual’s body knowing. The Bible categorically states this happens, moreover, The Holy Spirit literally speaks to me. In the last few minutes he said “I need to know what you are going to do next”. I thought did I need to pray to tell God what I’m going to do though He knows what I will do already before I do?
These days, more often than not, He instructs me to ignore posting on forums, only as a guide, which I can sometimes forget to obey. As I was thinking about this, synchronicity occurred, Matt Frei on uk channel 4 news said “so we are filming from the Titanic shipyard in Belfast, and forget that sinking ship for a moment if you please”. Synchronicity happens a hell of a lot like this with me, you see I have come to see atheists as sinking ships/vessels.

 

[Jimmy]

I believe existence wouldn’t be here without the chosen one so yeah.

 

[danieldemol]

Could it be that it is the collective consciousness of humankind that creates reality?

I believe you have it backwards, reality created collective human conciousness.

Human conciousness interacts with other reality, but not to the extent that our thoughts directly create that reality. I suggest for evidence of this you simply consider all the things from your article that Brunner got wrong that didn't eventuate.

Also you may want to consider how he actually came up with his ideas by reading cutting edge scientific literature which would have inevitably contained scientific predictions, as well as engaging in thought experiments which are explained in your article.

So to cut a lengthy answer short I believe the idea that the thoughts of human brains generate the future directly is largely woo.

In my opinion.

 

[Brickjectivity]

What do you think? Are we humans, to some degree, unknowingly responsible for the creation of reality?

Yes. I do, because sometimes there are little miracles. Sometimes a strong wish results in a tiny, very unlikely change such as a lock coming unstuck or a coincidental meeting with someone or a lost friend reincarnated as a new one. Sometimes.

I have a scientific education, but it is my responsibility to question everything. I can understand Physics and how everything might work or how it seems to work. I cannot say that I have fully researched everything for myself.

Sometimes there do seem to be miracles.

 

[Quagmire]

Could it be that it is the collective consciousness of humankind that creates reality? That quantum mechanics has much to do with prophesied events?

While reading Dean Koontz's novel The Big Dark Sky, I came across the following passage:

"Synchronicity. A Jungian coincidence," the stranger said.
"A what coincidence?"
"Carl Jung, the famous Swiss psychiatrist and psychologist. He theorized that meaningful coincidences reveal that our collective consciousness creates reality at least to some degree. Together we make reality, and effect can come before cause -- that kind of thing."
"Sounds like a load of horse****," Spondollar said.
"Yes, doesn't it? Here's an example I like. Edgar Allan Poe wrote a story about a shipwreck, in which starving sailors killed and ate a cabin boy named Richard Parker. Fifty years later, there was a shipwreck uncannily like that in the story in every detail -- and the starving sailors killed and ate a cabin boy named Richard Parker. Hundreds of thousands of people read that story over those fifty years and were horrified by it. Is it somehow possible that unconsciously they dreamed the story into the fabric of reality?"

And another passage from Koontz's novel:

"Wendy, have you ever heard of Carl Jung, or the word synchronicity?"
"No."
"Jung's theories have a lot in common with what science -- quantum mechanics -- reveals about the nature of reality."
"Like that helps," she said, still clutching her phone.
"Incredible coincidences are more common than we think. They're a part of the weave of the world. Effect can come before cause."
"I'm a waitress, you know. Dessert doesn't come before the entrée."
He smiled. "The famous British actress Beatrice Lillie was once onstage in Ontario, Canada, performing in Noël Coward's This Year of Grace, the entire cast lined up to one side of her. She was singing 'Britannia Rules the Waves,' when she mistakenly began to sing the second verse twice, before moving to the third. She realized what she was doing but had to carry forward with it. The cast froze in place instead of moving to center stage -- which was when the biggest and heaviest arc light fell from above, onto the very spot where they should have been standing. They were saved from serious injury, perhaps even death."

I haven't checked out the Beatrice Lillie story, but I did check our the E.A. Poe story and found that it was true:

The story of cannibalism that came true

Edgar Allan Poe was a prophetic master of macabre twists and turns. But most uncanny is the book he wrote about a ship wreck – and how life imitated art, writes Hephzibah Anderson.

www.bbc.com

Here's another case of "Is it prophecy? Or is it synchronicity?" from the same website:

"...In the case of John Brunner, a sci-fi author who grew up in an era when the word ‘wireless’ still meant radio – the specificity of his imaginings retains its power to startle. In his 1968 novel Stand on Zanzibar, for instance, he peers ahead to imagine life in 2010, correctly forecasting wearable technology, Viagra, video calls, same-sex marriage, the legalisation of cannabis, and the proliferation of mass shootings. Equally compelling, however – and even more instructive – is the process by which Brunner constructed this society of his future and our present."

The 1968 sci-fi that spookily predicted today

In the first of BBC Culture’s new series on fiction that predicted the future, Hephzibah Anderson looks at the work of John Brunner, whose vision of 2010 was eerily accurate.

www.bbc.com

What do you think? Are we humans, to some degree, unknowingly responsible for the creation of reality?

Another example: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/titanic-sinking-foretold-in-fictional-accounts-years-before-disaster-1.1289723#:~:text=The Titanic's plunge into the,shipwrecks on the high seas.

My favorite explanation for things like this is the idea of Eternal Return https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...4QFnoECA0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0eZSMQbEQpU94pFqESKCKG an idea that seems to be getting a lot of play here on RF all of a sudden lately.