Is prostitution "immoral"?

[Rakhel]

Most people have heard of the Bunny Ranch in Nevada.
I got my figures straight from the horse's mouth.
Their website has a live chat. Ask them how much they charge, what one can get for that price,
and don't forget to ask if they feel morally wrong for doing what they are doing.

 

[JacobEzra.]

gangs and drug dealers only come out more because it is illegal - we should legalise this natural physical act.

No. More like they are usually all interconnected in a way.

 

[JacobEzra.]

actually, I would say that this is natural.

this is because man , in his primitive state , would pay for sex in other ways such as providing food etc..

in a more modern sense a man may well pay for it by providing dinner, a night out , a nice bottle of wine or perhaps a nice necklace.

Big difference though, usually you have some type of connection or relationship with the other when paying for an expensive date or providing food. And even then if the intent of buying such is for sex, there is a big chance you will be let down. It is not the same as paying for the exact intent of sex.

the concept is the same - buying sex straight up just cuts through the pointless ritual.

No, not at all.

That is, unless you show a women a good time only for sex. If that is true, I feel sorry for you because that is a pretty horrible reason for doing such.

 

[JacobEzra.]

first off, I don't think I believe in your figures.

but let's say they are correct for the sake of the argument.

we must ask - what is wrong with society when a man has to pay $5000 to get laid?

I don't see whats so hard to believe. High class escorts can be even more expensive.

this is a clear problem - think of the financial hardship caused to the man in this scenario.

Not much a hardship if he has the money. If not, then he most likely would go for a lower class prostitute.

another reason for legislation - let supply and demand economic forces take over to create a realistic price for the customers and better opportunites for the workers. (better meaning safer)

That will not stop illegal prostitution. Ranches and Escort services usually take the best of the best. The true problem is women so poor, usually with drug addiction, taking to the streets. Legislation will not stop that by addressing prostitution itself. They need to fix the root problem.

 

[nnmartin]

what is the root problem then?

 

[JacobEzra.]

what is the root problem then?

Poverty, drug addiction, abuse, etc?

 

[nnmartin]

That is, unless you show a women a good time only for sex. If that is true, I feel sorry for you because that is a pretty horrible reason for doing such.

In virtually every minute of the day there will be a guy somewhere buying a girl a drink in a bar with the sole intention of getting her into bed.

How is this any different than paying a prostitute?

It is exactly the same thing.

No emotion, no love and no desire for a relationship.

Is this immoral?

 

[McBell]

first off, I don't think I believe in your figures.

Completely irrelevant to the facts.

but let's say they are correct for the sake of the argument.

we must ask - what is wrong with society when a man has to pay $5000 to get laid?

You do not have to pay $5000 to get laid.
Unless you want to get laid at the Bunny Ranch.
And that is merely the STARTING cost...

this is a clear problem - think of the financial hardship caused to the man in this scenario.

If you do not have the $5000 starting cost to get laid at the Bunny Ranch, perhaps you should look at a cheaper alternative?

Oh yeah, you want to ban all of them.....

another reason for legislation - let supply and demand economic forces take over to create a realistic price for the customers and better opportunites for the workers. (better meaning safer)

They charge $5000 just to get started because people pay $5000 just to get started.

So your "supply and demand" argument is already in place...

 

[JacobEzra.]

In virtually every minute of the day there will be a guy somewhere buying a girl a drink in a bar with the sole intention of getting her into bed.

How is this any different than paying a prostitute?

It is exactly the same thing.

No emotion, no love and no desire for a relationship.

Is this immoral?

Soo, a man buys a women a drink, that equals a 100% chance of getting "laid"?

 

[McBell]

In virtually every minute of the day there will be a guy somewhere buying a girl a drink in a bar with the sole intention of getting her into bed.

How is this any different than paying a prostitute?

It is exactly the same thing.

No emotion, no love and no desire for a relationship.

Is this immoral?

Nope.
Though I might argue that some of the specific tactics used may well be immoral.

 

[nnmartin]

Poverty, drug addiction, abuse, etc?

these are obviously factors in many cases but more often than not , sex-work is merely another supply and demand business.

Usually there are plenty of men willing to pay for sex, and pleny of girls willing to provide it (many of them are not especially poor , hooked on drugs or victims of abuse).

The trade is as old as the hills and will never go away.

Thus it should be legalised.

 

[JacobEzra.]

these are obviously factors in many cases but more often than not , sex-work is merely another supply and demand business.

Usually there are plenty of men willing to pay for sex, and pleny of girls willing to provide it (many of them are not especially poor , hooked on drugs or victims of abuse).

The trade is as old as the hills and will never go away.

Thus it should be legalised.

I love how you addressed my points very well.

Clearly you have no idea about prostitutes on the streets.

 

[nnmartin]

which specific points are you referring to and I will try to address them again in more detail.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

these are obviously factors in many cases but more often than not , sex-work is merely another supply and demand business.

Usually there are plenty of men willing to pay for sex, and pleny of girls willing to provide it (many of them are not especially poor , hooked on drugs or victims of abuse).

The trade is as old as the hills and will never go away.

Thus it should be legalised.

Dude. Most of the women and girls working in the sex industry are substance abusers.

 

[McBell]

Dude. Most of the women and girls working in the sex industry are substance abusers.

Source please.

 

[nnmartin]

Cynthia:

that is a very assuming allegation to make.

Certainly, where I live , it is more like 20% only.

but anyway, substance abusing or not - what has that got to do with it?

 

[nnmartin]

Source please.

wow!

looks like we may be on the same side here for once.

perhaps a new beginning....

 

[JacobEzra.]

Where do you live?
Have you seen prostitutes?
You understand the danger they put themselves in?
Do you understand how street prostitutes are connected to drug dealers, gangs, low quality of life, neighborhood decay, etc?

Remind you, I am not speaking of escorts or ranches. But actual street prostitution.

 

[nnmartin]

when we are talking about the drug issue I would imagine that it is usually a case of getting into addiction first and then using prostitution to fund the habit.

The root of the problem is , thus , the drug abuse - this is the problem that needs to be tackled.

I can't see how banning sex work will stop addiction.

however, if sex work were to be legalised , many of the streets could be 'cleaned up' and the gangs would have to move on.

 

[McBell]

wow!

looks like we may be on the same side here for once.

perhaps a new beginning....

Perhaps, perhaps not.

But since "most" can mean as little as 50.00000000000000000000000000000000001% I would like to know the source of the claim.