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Is Quantum Physics even Physical? Let Non-ontology mean non-physicality.

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
1. Christian has written [1], that Metrology Standard Instruments (like thermometer, meter, clock, ampermeter, etc), are the invariants. They are not allowed to change in time and place, and scale.
2. The laws of macro-world and the laws of micro-world are different [2, 3].
3. Let us reduce the size of Instruments until they reach the micro-level.
4. Micro-standards enter area of alien, different laws.
5. Then, the reduction of size changes the Standards. But standards are not allowed to change (by point 1).
6.Conclusion: Quantum Physics is not Physical. I would point your mind to the serious theoretical problems: the Quantum Field Theory still is not completely renormalized. For example, QFT predicts huge Cosmological Constant, but it is measured small.

References:

[1] Quote: “measurement standard is that it must be realized and may not change with time” arXiv:1409.5338, Christian Baumgarten (2017) Minkowski Spacetime and QED from Ontology of Time. Quantum Structural Studies: pp. 225-331. An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

[2] Analysis is in Gaps in physical picture will never be filled (Ходящий По Лжи) / Проза.ру
, with rejection of Bohm's Pilot Wave interpretation of Quantum Mechanics in the paper: Sofia, Journal of Modern Physics, year 2016, volume 7, pages 1091-1097 (this good paper was retracted due to a mistake, which nevertheless do not alter the result of Sofia, the body of the paper is still readable here:
http://file.scirp.org/pdf/JMP_2016062014172156.pdf

[3] What does it all mean? What violated is scale-invariance. Indeed, by transforming the metric x -> q x, t -> q t, with changing according parameters (mass, charge, etc) we would reduce the size of macro-system, but its processes will not change: “Men In Black [1997] Orion's Belt”
However, is known, that in micro-world the laws are different, and, thus, the scale invariance is violated.

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_Quantum_Physics_even_Physical
 
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David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
1. Christian has written [1], that Metrology Standard Instruments (like thermometer, meter, clock, ampermeter, etc), are the invariants. They are not allowed to change in time and place, and scale.
2. The laws of macro-world and the laws of micro-world are different [2, 3].
3. Let us reduce the size of Instruments until they reach the micro-level.
4. Micro-standards enter area of alien, different laws.
5. Then, the reduction of size changes the Standards. But standards are not allowed to change (by point 1).
6.Conclusion: Quantum Physics is not Physical. I would point your mind to the serious theoretical problems: the Quantum Field Theory still is not completely renormalized. For example, QFT predicts huge Cosmological Constant, but it is measured small.

References:

[1] Quote: “measurement standard is that it must be realized and may not change with time” arXiv:1409.5338, Christian Baumgarten (2017) Minkowski Spacetime and QED from Ontology of Time. Quantum Structural Studies: pp. 225-331. An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie

[2] Analysis is in Gaps in physical picture will never be filled (Ходящий По Лжи) / Проза.ру
, with rejection of Bohm's Pilot Wave interpretation of Quantum Mechanics in the paper: Sofia, Journal of Modern Physics, year 2016, volume 7, pages 1091-1097 (this good paper was retracted due to a mistake, which nevertheless do not alter the result of Sofia, the body of the paper is still readable here:
http://file.scirp.org/pdf/JMP_2016062014172156.pdf

[3] What does it all mean? What violated is scale-invariance. Indeed, by transforming the metric x -> q x, t -> q t, with changing according parameters (mass, charge, etc) we would reduce the size of macro-system, but its processes will not change: “Men In Black [1997] Orion's Belt”
However, is known, that in micro-world the laws are different, and, thus, the scale invariance is violated.

Source: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_Quantum_Physics_even_Physical
This is a problem in science of measurement as reality issue which morphed up from religion in the first place. It should ideally challenge religion instead it justifies religious nonsense. In religion it's linguistics. We take a book of words and hold those to the sky to measure the clouds. Linguistics and math are an aspect of a particular region of the brain. So which perceptual dysfunctional is dominate in that region of the brain whether it's math or linguistics is expressed and then argued over. Thus the dysfunctional of religion vs science. Read Galileo's dysfunctional quote on math as the language of God.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
If quantum isn’t physical then nothing is and vice versa. It’s semantics but it’s something, we aren’t made of nothing. We are physically made of the quantum stuffs.

There is going to be a way to calculate at micro scales, Einstein’s theories never break. Just because we can’t divide by zero and our maths can’t get a grip on the event horizon doesn’t mean reality breaks. It just means mathematicians have more work to do.

When a macro scale thing is in a quantum state it still physically goes through two slits.
Macroscopic quantum phenomena - Wikipedia
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
This is a problem in science of measurement as reality issue which morphed up from religion in the first place. It should ideally challenge religion instead it justifies religious nonsense. In religion it's linguistics. We take a book of words and hold those to the sky to measure the clouds. Linguistics and math are an aspect of a particular region of the brain. So which perceptual dysfunctional is dominate in that region of the brain whether it's math or linguistics is expressed and then argued over. Thus the dysfunctional of religion vs science. Read Galileo's dysfunctional quote on math as the language of God.
Wow. I'm impressed. You were able to thresh a thread of reason. I'm afraid I shut down too soon. Oh well.:oops:
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
I haven't caught up to Schrödinger's thinking yet !
Give me a break please !
 
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