Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

[outhouse]

without any substance or evidence ...

Which is funny, because you ducked and dodged every question asked of you.

And what I posted is followed by every credible historian

And mirrors the links you provided to a T

the scientific explanation in the ncse link that proves the Quranic version

:biglaugh:


It only proves your books are PLAGIARIZED

 

[outhouse]

Just so you know, many mythological accounts contain a historical core.


A historical core does not make the whole myth a real event.


In this case, we have multiple legends and flood myths that existed prior to your books being written, yours is the last, and the least histoical, as time perverts the myths.

Why cannot you admit the Noah myth existed and was known in Mecca before your dude went in a cave ???????????

 

[idav]

Please look into the latest research on Adam and Eve.

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most recent common ancestor of men, called Adam, lived almost 120,000 years ago, and chances are that he did not meet or interact with Eve, who lived around 99,000 to 148,000 years ago, a new research indicates.

Adam And Eve Lived In Africa, But Probably Did Not Know Each Other: Scientists

The most pertinent question therefore would be; where did Jewish Bible or Torah get the story of Adam and Eve from?

Regards

Ok but that isn't what your OP is asking. You ask if the quran could have got this stuff from the Torah. Well no duh, you end up asking where did the torah get it from.

 

[outhouse]

It is not hillarious watching you dance around avoiding the questions, and making excuses.

It is not productive here, and we are not advancing your knowledge on this topic.


Your all over the board, you wont state your REAL opinion, because it locks you into a spot you cannot defend. Now your honesty comes into question.

#1 So you state a flood happened? yes or no.

#2 So your stating the Euphrates flood of 2900BC is the noah flood? yes or no.

#3 So your stating your god had no idea it was a river flood? yes or no

I mean this river flood happened some 3500 year in the past before your books existed, and spawned many flood myths in this exact area. But why does your book NOT describe this river flood in detail? Because it is plagiarized mythology ?

 

[loverOfTruth]

It is not hillarious watching you dance around avoiding the questions, and making excuses.

It is not productive here, and we are not advancing your knowledge on this topic.


Your all over the board, you wont state your REAL opinion, because it locks you into a spot you cannot defend. Now your honesty comes into question.

#1 So you state a flood happened? yes or no.

#2 So your stating the Euphrates flood of 2900BC is the noah flood? yes or no.

#3 So your stating your god had no idea it was a river flood? yes or no

I mean this river flood happened some 3500 year in the past before your books existed, and spawned many flood myths in this exact area.

Since you have not answered any of my questions and repeatedly avoided them and even after seeing scientific evidence supporting the Quranic view, you keep going round and round in your nonsense - I am not gonna bother wasting my time.

But why does your book NOT describe this river flood in detail? Because it is plagiarized mythology ?

Because the Qur'an is not a book of History or Archaeology or Geography or Science. But rather it is a book of Signs and Guidance for mankind. For that purpose - it is sufficient that it mentions a historical event(a local flood in the Kurdistan area) in brief as a SIGN which conforms with available historical information.

Now you can take it or leave it but the bottom line is that you still couldn't respond to any of the arguments presented against your claim of plagiarism which is the topic of this thread. So it is for all to see who is avoiding answering questions, making excuses, coming up with myths as responses and running away.

Peace.

 

[outhouse]

Now you can take it or leave it but the bottom line is


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Your book has PLAGIARIZED MYTHOLOGY.


Don't get me started, it is laughable you think your book has no mythology.

Since you have not answered any of my questions

You don't get to steer anything here.


You need to fess up the book is not historically accurate. :yes:

Because the Qur'an is not a book of History or Archaeology or Geography or Science.

That does not mean all the history and science and explanations of the natural world is correct it is not.

Because no god had any part of writing it. Other then he was a positive thought in the authors minds.

Your book lives in my world, not me in its. Your book has some explaining to do, as it makes claims that are not true in a literal interpretation.


At least with Christian's, only some are fundamentalist, they do not claim their book is 100% god inspired, so they seem to be more open to real history.


Noah of the bible, and the noah of islam have no historicity as ever existing.

Do you even comprehend what that means, or do I need to spell it out to you??

 

[outhouse]

it is sufficient that it mentions a historical event(a local flood in the Kurdistan area)

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BLASPHEMY :biglaugh:


That is not what your book describes.

 

[outhouse]

This is what the world believes.


Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islamic mythology is the body of traditional narratives associated with Islam from a mythographical perspective.


Connection with Jewish and Christian mythologies

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology.



Plagiarized is the key word here

 

[paarsurrey]

Now you can take it or leave it but the bottom line is that you still couldn't respond to any of the arguments presented against your claim of plagiarism which is the topic of this thread. So it is for all to see who is avoiding answering questions, making excuses, coming up with myths as responses and running away.

Peace.

First he started using the word "copying" ; when he could not quote anything from Quran which could be proved by him having been copied from Torah; then he comes with the word "plagiarization".

He has not read Quran from cover to cover so he cannot prove it either.

Quran has its contents from the original source which is definitely not Torah.

It is Torah which after the enormous corruptions made by the narrators/scribes/clergy into it has hardly anything which could be said to be from the original source now.

Torah is now reduced to having been plagiarized from the neighboring communities.

This is just for information.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I quoted following short chapters from Quran in this thread:

1. 1. Al-Fatihah
2. 114. Al-Nas
3. 113. Al-Falaq
4. 112. Al-Ikhlas
5. 111. Al-Lahab

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these Quranic chapters have been copied or plagiarized from.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied or plagiarized from Torah.

Yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been plagiarized from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 110: Al-Nasr

[110:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[110:2] When the help of Allah comes, and the victory,
[110:3] And thou seest men entering the religion of Allah in troops,
[110:4] Glorify thy Lord, with His praise, and seek forgiveness of Him. Surely He is Oft-Returning with compassion.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Nothing like this in Torah.

It is neither copied from Torah nor plagiarized from Torah. Friend Outhhouse to find another word for it in his dictionary.

Regards

 

[outhouse]

when he could not quote anything from Quran which could be proved by him having been copied from Torah;

False.

The names Noah, Abraham, Adam, Eve, all copied.


Why is it so hard for you to admit to the REAL origin of the plagiarized myths in your books?

 

[outhouse]

It is neither copied from Torah nor plagiarized from Torah.

To bad.

The rest of the world follows my exact thoughts on this.


You follow such a distorted view of your own books, your own kind is persecuting you. By your own words.

 

[loverOfTruth]

To bad.

The rest of the world follows my exact thoughts on this.


You follow such a distorted view of your own books, your own kind is persecuting you. By your own words.

Utter rubbish and sheer delusion.

 

[outhouse]

Utter rubbish and sheer delusion.

Only to muslim apologist who are also fundamentalist, and hate education and credible knowledge.


next thing you know you will proselytize a flat earth, and how evolution is not credible science

 

[idav]

First he started using the word "copying" ; when he could not quote anything from Quran which could be proved by him having been copied from Torah; then he comes with the word "plagiarization".

He has not read Quran from cover to cover so he cannot prove it either.

Quran has its contents from the original source which is definitely not Torah.

It is Torah which after the enormous corruptions made by the narrators/scribes/clergy into it has hardly anything which could be said to be from the original source now.

Torah is now reduced to having been plagiarized from the neighboring communities.

This is just for information.

Regards

We have already covered verses copied from rabbis outside of torah. We also covered stories taken from Torah or the Bible. Jesus was already established and the quran wrote about, nothing new either, already plenty of theories like that of Islam. Islam incorporated all kinds of views. Sure there is stuff in the quran that might just be made up, but that doesn't help all the copying and plagiarism that took place. You even said a verse that admitted it got stuff from earthly sources.

 

[outhouse]

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Islamic mythology

Islam shares the creation myth of Judaism and Christianity


Deluge and Noah's (Nuh's) Ark- worldwide flood-event with a water vessel containing the remains of humanity and a set of all animals


Garden of Eden - the heavenly Paradise where Adam and Eve lived before their Fall


Michael - the angel of nature

Angels - beings of light that serve as God's messengers; in Islam, these lack free will











Islamic mythology is the body of traditional narratives associated with Islam from a mythographical perspective


All Plagiarized

And this is taught to the whole world by credible sources as the truth .

 

[outhouse]

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Why do muslims even try and debate real history, since they refuse the current state of education and knowledge on these topics?


All in favor of "godidit"

 

[paarsurrey]

I quoted following short chapters from Quran in this thread:

1. 1. Al-Fatihah
2. 114. Al-Nas
3. 113. Al-Falaq
4. 112. Al-Ikhlas
5. 111. Al-Lahab
6. 110. Al-Nasr

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these Quranic chapters have been copied or plagiarized from.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied or plagiarized from Torah.

Yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been plagiarized from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 109: Al-Kafirun

[109:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[109:2] Say, ‘O ye disbelievers!
[109:3] ‘I worship not that which you worship;
[109:4] ‘Nor worship you what I worship.
[109:5] ‘And I am not going to worship that which you worship;
[109:6] ‘Nor will you worship what I worship.
[109:7] ‘For you your religion, and for me my religion.’

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Try your luck please.

Regards

Regards

 

[idav]

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied or plagiarized from Torah.

Great so some stuff was made up, congratulations. While ignoring the stuff that was copied.

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

Yet another Chapter from Quran; a short one; it should be easy to google and to find out if the verses in this chapter have been copied/plagiarized from Torah:

The Holy Quran : Chapter 108: Al-Kauthar

[108:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[108:2] Surely We have given thee abundance of good;
[108:3] So pray to thy Lord, and offer sacrifice.
[108:4] Surely, it is thy enemy who is without issue.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please try your luck to prove that this chapter has been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah.

If one cannot; then it certifies that Quran has not been copied or plagiarized from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world. Quran is original and authored by G-d.

Regards