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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
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paarsurrey
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It is a blemish for a god to have sons and daughters. When did G-d get married that He would have sons and daughters? It never happened.
Quran rejects it with reasons while Torah provides no reasoning or wisdom. Quran is a book of wisdom and reasons; corrupted Torah at hands of narrators/scribes/clergy has lost these qualities.
I quote from Quran in the matter of sons of god or daughters of god:
[6:101] And they hold the Jinn to be partners with Allah, although He created them; and they falsely ascribe to Him sons and daughters without any knowledge. Holy is He and exalted far above what they attribute to Him!
[6:102] The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a son when He has no consort, and when He has created everything and has knowledge of all things?
[6:103] Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God but He, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He is Guardian over everything.
[6:104] Eyes cannot reach Him but He reaches the eyes. And He is the Incomprehensible, the All-Aware.
[6:105] Proofs have indeed come to you from your Lord; so whoever sees, it is for his own good; and whoever becomes blind, it is to his own harm. And I am not a guardian over you.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Regards
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I give below a Chapter from Quran:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 100: Al-`Adiyat
[100:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[100:2] By the snorting chargers of the warriors,
[100:3] Striking sparks of fire,
[100:4] And making raids at dawn,
[100:5] And raising clouds of dust thereby,
[100:6] And penetrating thereby into the centre of the enemy forces,
[100:7] Surely, man is ungrateful to his Lord;
[100:8] And surely, he is a witness unto that;
[100:9] And surely, he is very keen for the love of wealth.
[100:10] Does not such a one know that when those in the graves are raised,
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that this chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Can one, please?
If one cannot; then one testifies that Quran has not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world.
Quran is original and authored by God; as it claims.
And by now one should realize that Quran is not a book of stories; Quran vehemently rejects this notion. Its main theme is providing reasons and argument for the pillars of faith of Islam. Only for illustration purposes Quran mention some human examples of the past and to correct the corrupted accounts of such characters/personages mentioned in Torah whom narrators/scribes/clergy had character assassinated to restore their honor.
Regards
I give below a Chapter from Quran:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 100: Al-`Adiyat
[100:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[100:2] By the snorting chargers of the warriors,
[100:3] Striking sparks of fire,
[100:4] And making raids at dawn,
[100:5] And raising clouds of dust thereby,
[100:6] And penetrating thereby into the centre of the enemy forces,
[100:7] Surely, man is ungrateful to his Lord;
[100:8] And surely, he is a witness unto that;
[100:9] And surely, he is very keen for the love of wealth.
[100:10] Does not such a one know that when those in the graves are raised,
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that this chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Can one, please?
If one cannot; then one testifies that Quran has not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world.
Quran is original and authored by God; as it claims.
And by now one should realize that Quran is not a book of stories; Quran vehemently rejects this notion. Its main theme is providing reasons and argument for the pillars of faith of Islam. Only for illustration purposes Quran mention some human examples of the past and to correct the corrupted accounts of such characters/personages mentioned in Torah whom narrators/scribes/clergy had character assassinated to restore their honor.
Regards
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
lol who would ever think about using this quote to undermine his argument.
Exactly, and they have been told this over and over.
Well its the same in the "ISLAM DIDNT EXPAND BY FORCE!!11!!!11!!!" thread.
So i dont even know why you care anymore.
The Quran, Islam and Muslims are perfect and with them everything that ever happened under their eyes for the last 1435 years.
I thought that was obvious. :beach:
outhouse
Atheistically
Just another day of having stereotypical muslims trying to take over the religious world with lies.
outhouse
Atheistically
Why keep saying the same lie over and over dude?
outhouse
Atheistically
I will admit I have no clue how to teach people beyond reason and logic living in a small eggshell existence, never looking outside of the mythology they created in their own conscious mind. :ignore:
But many people reading these forums are not stupid, and we can only hope the errors are transparent.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
lol who would ever think about using this quote to undermine his argument.
I thought you would perhaps appreciate that I am going with a system. I don't delete anything even just because people won't like it.
Now just tell us if these verses of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah?
Will you? Please
Regards
Shad
Veteran Member
The Infacy Gospel of Thomas
Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
Arabic Gospel of Infancy
Gospel of Philip
Gospel of Truth
Gospel of James
The Secret Book of John
Valentinus and Valentinian Tradition
Gospel of the Lord
Nag Hammiadi Collection
Apostolikon
Shad
Veteran Member
Why apply human biological systems to God. This is a strawman as no mainstream theology promotes the idea of God needing a spouse for reproduction.
The Torah provides reasons for the rejection of Jesus, namely failed prophecy. Christian lump these prophecies into the Second Coming. Maybe read the Torah and Bible to understand views which you clearly do not understand at all.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
G-d is Creator who creates; why term one of His creation as "son"; why not term it "daughter". Simply one should say term that "created".
Torah and Gospels are sure wrong.
Regards
^ and I thought my posts were vague & brief
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
paarsurrey
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paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
I give below a Chapter from Quran:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 99: Al-Zilzal
[99:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[99:2] When the earth is shaken with her violent shaking,
[99:3] And the earth brings forth her burdens,
[99:4] And man says, ‘What is the matter with her?’
[99:5] That day will she tell her news,
[99:6] For thy Lord will have revealed about her.
[99:7] On that day will men come forth in scattered groups that they may be shown the results of their works.
[99:8] Then whoso does an atom’s weight of good will see it,
[99:9] And whoso does an atom’s weight of evil will also see it.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that this chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Can one, please?
If one cannot; then one testifies that Quran has not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world.
Quran is original and authored by God; as it claims.
And by now one should realize that Quran is not a book of stories; Quran vehemently rejects this notion.
Quran's main theme is providing reasons and argument for the pillars of faith of Islam. Only for illustration purposes Quran mention some human examples of the past and to correct the corrupted accounts of such characters/personages mentioned in Torah whom narrators/scribes/clergy had character assassinated. Quran restores their honor by correcting their accounts mentioned in Torah.
Regards
I give below a Chapter from Quran:
The Holy Quran : Chapter 99: Al-Zilzal
[99:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[99:2] When the earth is shaken with her violent shaking,
[99:3] And the earth brings forth her burdens,
[99:4] And man says, ‘What is the matter with her?’
[99:5] That day will she tell her news,
[99:6] For thy Lord will have revealed about her.
[99:7] On that day will men come forth in scattered groups that they may be shown the results of their works.
[99:8] Then whoso does an atom’s weight of good will see it,
[99:9] And whoso does an atom’s weight of evil will also see it.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Please prove that this chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.
Can one, please?
If one cannot; then one testifies that Quran has not been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or from any other book existing in the world.
Quran is original and authored by God; as it claims.
And by now one should realize that Quran is not a book of stories; Quran vehemently rejects this notion.
Quran's main theme is providing reasons and argument for the pillars of faith of Islam. Only for illustration purposes Quran mention some human examples of the past and to correct the corrupted accounts of such characters/personages mentioned in Torah whom narrators/scribes/clergy had character assassinated. Quran restores their honor by correcting their accounts mentioned in Torah.
Regards
1) The mentions of Torah & Injeel could have been things learned by Muhammad ibn Abdulla along his travels before his vision at Mt Hira. It is recorded of several small Jewish & Christian communities throughout Arabia such as the 3 recorded in Medina.
2) for what the Quran claims as prophets see my other thread about prophets vs kings
outhouse
Atheistically
Could you supply the verses, I should not have to hunt after them.
Just 1 or 2 of your best cases please, I would like to research this.
So far it looks like very late sources.
outhouse
Atheistically
Shad
Veteran Member
Sryriac Infancy Gospel 1:2-3 1:2-3
Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Savior 5:110
Gospel of Thomas 1:4-9
Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew chapter 20
Gospel of James 8:1. 8:6
Gospel of Philip, The Secret Book of John, Gospel of the Lord and Gospel Truth have a different format as these are fragments not complete texts. Each is short enough to read in a few minutes.
Nag Hammiadi Collection contains many of the texts mentioned
Apostolikon is based on Paul word but is based on dualism
If you read the whole book(s) listed you will see many of the ideas from these text within the Quran.
Arabic Gospel of the Infancy of the Savior 5:110
Gospel of Thomas 1:4-9
Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew chapter 20
Gospel of James 8:1. 8:6
Gospel of Philip, The Secret Book of John, Gospel of the Lord and Gospel Truth have a different format as these are fragments not complete texts. Each is short enough to read in a few minutes.
Nag Hammiadi Collection contains many of the texts mentioned
Apostolikon is based on Paul word but is based on dualism
If you read the whole book(s) listed you will see many of the ideas from these text within the Quran.
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