Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

[Shad]

Here we don't want to say that Islam is a myth
But we say that Islam use the Evangelical and biblical sources and Zoroastrianism
And also use the religions of ancient Mecca
This speech is rejected by the Muslim
Because it isolates the Koran confiscated and linked him with thread hanging in the sky and claim that God sent down to Muhammad
This is a myth
When separating the thing about reality and the source
Christian says it's tatmadali Torah
Victher issues
The ten commandments are the same
Christ has completed the first commandment and love of God with human love
The teachings of eating are the same
But drop the formalities of biblical faith
Some concepts
This is another area of discussion
Then there was the myth of the Christian faith in this area
No Christian in the world says that the Bible is the word of God home but say with courage
Analmsih did and said
It did not say anhanzl
Revelation is in the acts of Christ and his
And also who wrote the Gospel of his disciples
So the myth of Christian little
Accept my respect

I am just stating my views as I was asked while my reply was commented on.

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 91: Al-Shams: [2]

[91:11] And he who corrupts it is ruined.
[91:12] The tribe of Thamud denied the truth because of their rebelliousness.
[91:13] When the most wretched among them got up,
[91:14] Then the Messenger of Allah said, ‘Leave alone the she-camel of Allah, and let her drink.’
[91:15] But they rejected him and hamstrung her, so their Lord destroyed them completely because of their sin, and made it (destruction) overtake all of them alike.
[91:16] And He cared not for the consequences thereof.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted or as comes latest from a posters now “spinned” from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.


Regard

 

[firedragon]

I wouldn't if I were you. You also ignore the rest of the comment and the implications of the topic of agreement. It is a basis to use as a dismissal of Islam. Judaism would be a myth making Islam a religion based on a myth.

What evidence? I mean scriptural evidence.

 

[Shad]

The modification of Sheol and associated after-life ideas of per-Babylonian Judaism to that of a place of damned souls found in Zoroastrianism post-Babylonian forms Judaism, Islam and Christianity. The interpretation of punishment for eternity verse that of purification of the soul in Sheol. The complete lack of evidence supporting Exodus as fact. The evidence supporting a Canaanite origin theory along with the memo-narrative construct of a foundation story and conquest.

Adaptation, assimilation and fabrications of ideas is found through out the Bible along with historical factual events such as the captivity in Babylon, destruction of the two kingdoms and occupation by various foreign powers such as the Greeks, Romans, Assyrians, Babylonians, etc.

 

[outhouse]

What evidence? I mean scriptural evidence.

Abraham never existed as a real person, yet islam claims he was a real prophet

It claims all the mythology was real.


The exodus factually did not happen as written, yet islam claims it is.



The fanaticism involved is exactly like YEC denouncing evolution. But instead of a minority group its the whole religion as a whole.



Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.

 

[firedragon]

Abraham never existed as a real person, yet islam claims he was a real prophet

It claims all the mythology was real.


The exodus factually did not happen as written, yet islam claims it is.



The fanaticism involved is exactly like YEC denouncing evolution. But instead of a minority group its the whole religion as a whole.



Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.

:clap:areyoucra

 

[outhouse]

The complete lack of evidence supporting Exodus as fact. The evidence supporting a Canaanite origin theory along with the memo-narrative construct of a foundation story and conquest.

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Must add. We have factual evidence that supports the Canaanite origin of Israelites.

It shows a slow migration over a few hundreds years.

It factually shows after 1200 BC displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people slowly moved to the highlands of Israel.

These people factually used.

The Canaanite alphabet, pottery, and gods.


Israelites did not have any identity as their own until after 1000 BC. Not one aspect of Israelites pseudo history is accurate before 1000 BC

yet islam plagiarized all the pseudo history as real out of severe historical ignorance. :slap:

 

[outhouse]

:clap:areyoucra

And that is as good as reply to every accurate and credible word I posted, that we will ever get from islam.


Fanaticism and fundamentalism does not stand up to reality, it runs and ignores, due to having written mythology as their only source.



Its why you cannot refute a single credible word I stated taught in every credible college around the world.


Do you really think the world is out to get you?


Isn't your denial proof and a great example of Fanaticism and fundamentalism?

 

[firedragon]

:sleep:

And that is as good as reply to every accurate and credible word I posted, that we will ever get from islam.


Fanaticism and fundamentalism does not stand up to reality, it runs and ignores, due to having written mythology as their only source.



Its why you cannot refute a single credible word I stated taught in every credible college around the world.


Do you really think the world is out to get you?


Isn't your denial proof and a great example of Fanaticism and fundamentalism?

:sleep:

 

[outhouse]

Half your prophets factually have no historicity as existing what so ever.

does that mean muhammad, has no real credibility as a prophet either?


So your forced not to address the issue?

 

[firedragon]

Half your prophets factually have no historicity as existing what so ever.

does that mean muhammad, has no real credibility as a prophet either?


So your forced not to address the issue?

:run:

 

[outhouse]

Wow! a flaw so large in the religion, not a single follower almost 2 billion strong can defend against. Not the best Islamic professors, nor scholar.


Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.


Maybe I will write a article called "26 words"

islam refuted in two credible sentences.

 

[paarsurrey]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 90: Al-Balad
: [1]

[90:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[90:2] Nay, but I do swear by this city —
[90:3] And thou art dwelling in this city —
[90:4] And I swear by the begetter and whom he begot,
[90:5] We have surely created man to face hardships.
[90:6] Does he think that no one has power over him?
[90:7] He says, ‘I have spent enormous wealth.’
[90:8] Does he think that no one sees him?
[90:9] Have We not given him two eyes,
[90:10] And a tongue and two lips?

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted or as comes latest from a posters now “spinned” from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.


Regard

 

[outhouse]

answer this paar

Wow! a flaw so large in the religion, not a single follower almost 2 billion strong can defend against. Not the best Islamic professors, nor scholar.


Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.


Maybe I will write a article called "26 words"

islam refuted in two credible sentences.

 

[outhouse]

Abraham never existed as a real person, yet islam claims he was a real prophet

It claims all the mythology was real.


The exodus factually did not happen as written, yet islam claims it is.



The fanaticism involved is exactly like YEC denouncing evolution. But instead of a minority group its the whole religion as a whole.



Why does not one credible historian in the whole world use islams books for Jewish and Christian history? Because plagiarized books have no credibility at all.

 

[outhouse]

Must add. We have factual evidence that supports the Canaanite origin of Israelites.

It shows a slow migration over a few hundreds years.

It factually shows after 1200 BC displaced Canaanites and other Semitic people slowly moved to the highlands of Israel.

These people factually used.

The Canaanite alphabet, pottery, and gods.


Israelites did not have any identity as their own until after 1000 BC. Not one aspect of Israelites pseudo history is accurate before 1000 BC

yet islam plagiarized all the pseudo history as real out of severe historical ignorance.

 

[idav]

yet islam plagiarized all the pseudo history as real out of severe historical ignorance.

Islam uses Judaism to establish themselves as one of gods chosen lineages.

 

[outhouse]

Islam uses Judaism to establish themselves as one of gods chosen lineages.

That is what I stated, in another thread.

It was a direct lie to the people.

 

[paarsurrey]

Islam uses Judaism to establish themselves as one of gods chosen lineages.

I don't agree with you.

Regards

 

[vskipper]

Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I give below The Holy Quran : Chapter 90: Al-Balad
: [1]

[90:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[90:2] Nay, but I do swear by this city —
[90:3] And thou art dwelling in this city —
[90:4] And I swear by the begetter and whom he begot,
[90:5] We have surely created man to face hardships.
[90:6] Does he think that no one has power over him?
[90:7] He says, ‘I have spent enormous wealth.’
[90:8] Does he think that no one sees him?
[90:9] Have We not given him two eyes,
[90:10] And a tongue and two lips?

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted or as comes latest from a posters now “spinned” from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.


Regard

Hmmm I find ayat 4 very intriguing. Surah al inkhlas denies begetting but this surah swears by the begotten. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.