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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 81: Al-Takwir: [1]

[81:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[81:2] When the sun is wrapped up,
[81:3] And when the stars are obscured,
[81:4] And when the mountains are made to move,
[81:5] And when the she-camels, ten month pregnant, are abandoned,
[81:6] And when the beasts are gathered together,
[81:7] And when the seas are made to flow forth one into the other,
[81:8] And when people are brought together,
[81:9] And when the girl-child buried alive is questioned about,
[81:10] ‘For what crime was she killed?’

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

Regard
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
[81:2] When the sun is wrapped up,

When has the sun ever been wrapped up?

what kind of gibberish is this ??

This thread is for:

proving that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

not for debating the meanings.

If one is interested to know the meanings of the verse one may access the following link, no compulsion:

The Holy Quran

Note # 4589 gives the etymology of the important Arabic words of the verse and for the commentary.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
[81:9] And when the girl-child buried alive

typical muslims?

This thread is for:

proving that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

not for debating the meanings.

If one is interested to know the meanings of the verse one may access the following link, no compulsion, however:

The Holy Quran


Note # 4596 gives the commentary and it understanding.

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

I have so far quoted following 34 short but full chapters from Quran in this thread:[Summary]


82. Al-Infitar, 83. Al-Tatfif,84. Al-Inshiqaq,85. Al-Buruj,86. Al-Tariq,87. Al-A`la,88. Al-Ghashiyah,89. Al-Fajr,90. Al-Balad,91. Al-Shams,92. Al-Lail,93. Al-Duha,94. Al-Inshirah,95. Al-Tin,96. Al-`Alaq,97. Al-Qadr,98. Al-Bayyinah,99. Al-Zilzal,100. Al-`Adiyat,101. Al-Qari`ah,102. Al-Takathur,103. Al-`Asr,104. Al-Humazah,105. Al-Fil,106. Al-Quraish,107. Al-Ma`un,108. Al-Kauthar,109. Al-Kafirun,110. Al-Nasr,111. Al-Lahab,112. Al-Ikhlas,113. Al-Falaq,114. Al-Nas,1. Al-Fatihah. 14. Ibrahim.

Our Jewish (or non-Jewish) friends have not been able to quote or reference places of Torah where any of the verses of these Thirty four Quranic chapters have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from.

There being 114 Surahs/chapters in Quran. Number-wise this makes about 1/3 of Quran.

We can therefore conclude with 100% certainty that 0% of verses of these chapters of Quran have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Torah.

Quran is, therefore, the Word Revealed from G-d and authored by Him and is original.

Regards
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
The obvious problem of this Thread is that a Person is "discussing" plagiarizing without understanding what it means.

The crazy part is that this has not changed for 67 pages.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The obvious problem of this Thread is that a Person is "discussing" plagiarizing without understanding what it means.

The crazy part is that this has not changed for 67 pages.

What is your concept of plagiarisation? Please

Do you think ten commandment in the Torah were plagiarized from the Egyptians? Please

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 81: Al-Takwir: [2]

[81:11] And when books are spread abroad.
[81:12] And when the heaven is laid bare,
[81:13] And when the Fire is caused to blaze up,
[81:14] And when the Garden is brought nigh,
[81:15] Then every soul will know what it has brought forward.
[81:16] Nay! I call to witness the planets that recede,
[81:17] Go ahead and then hide.
[81:18] And I call to witness the night as it passes away,
[81:19] And the dawn as it begins to breathe,
[81:20] That this is surely the revealed word of a noble Messenger,

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

Regard
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The obvious problem of this Thread is that a Person is "discussing" plagiarizing without understanding what it means.

The crazy part is that this has not changed for 67 pages.

And a definition of plagiarism was posted Oh I don't know 3 or 4 times maybe more.


If that is not an example of DEEP degrading fanaticism, I don't know what is.

Im guessing the replies are from an 11 year old who does not have a yet fully developed brain.

If im wrong there, then islam is more dangerous then anyone could guess.
 

Harikrish

Active Member
It is often said Mohammed was an illiterate so he could not have known or read what was later recited by him to scribes to create the Quran. The Quran therefore was the inspired word of God spoken directly to Mohammed.

But Mohammed had many wife's and from all different faith and backgrounds. Some even educated. So it is not like he had no exposure to the prevailing myths and stories of his times. It is because he heard it as stories and not through his own scholarship, that we find many inaccuracies and mistakes in the Quran.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It is often said Mohammed was an illiterate so he could not have known or read what was later recited by him to scribes to create the Quran. The Quran therefore was the inspired word of God spoken directly to Mohammed.

But Mohammed had many wife's and from all different faith and backgrounds. Some even educated. So it is not like he had no exposure to the prevailing myths and stories of his times. It is because he heard it as stories and not through his own scholarship, that we find many inaccuracies and mistakes in the Quran.

I don't agree with you.

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Harikrish

Active Member
I don't agree with you.

Regards

Read about the backgrounds of his many wives. They were educated, some were Jewish and one was even a Christian. He had access to all the religions through his wives.

His second wife was Aisha, Matchfire in the Backlight. She was his only virgin wife, a woman who studied law and learned the entire Quran by heart.

There were two Jewish wives, Rayhanna and Safiyya, and Mariya from among the Christians.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Read about the backgrounds of his many wives. They were educated, some were Jewish and one was even a Christian. He had access to all the religions through his wives.

His second wife was Aisha, Matchfire in the Backlight. She was his only virgin wife, a woman who studied law and learned the entire Quran by heart.

There were two Jewish wives, Rayhanna and Safiyya, and Mariya from among the Christians.

Quran does not mention any background as you assume.

Regards
 

Harikrish

Active Member
Quran does not mention any background as you assume.

Regards

That is why Muslims don't know where Mohammed got his information from to write the Quran. He might have been an illiterate ,but his wives were not and they were Jewish, Christians, educated lawyers etc.etc. In short he was surrounded by wives who fed him all the myths and stories of his time.
 
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