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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 80: `Abasa: [2]

[80:11] Him dost thou neglect.
[80:12] Nay! surely it is a Reminder —
[80:13] So let him who desires pay heed to it —
[80:14] On honoured sheets.
[80:15] Exalted, purified,
[80:16] In the hands of writers,
[80:17] Noble and virtuous.
[80:18] Ruin seize the man! how ungrateful he is!
[80:19] Of what does He create him?
[80:20] Of a sperm-drop! He creates him and proportions him;

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

Regard
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?

The only real person there is Muhammad and his only "miracle" was plagiarized mythology. :facepalm:
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
You forgot the raping and pedophilia :sarcastic

Oy vey. Quite the prophet. He must a missed the part when God told Abraham that he made a mistake and was only supposed to have sex with his wife. I guess common sense isn't a required trait for being a prophet.:sarcastic
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Oy vey. Quite the prophet. He must a missed the part when God told Abraham that he made a mistake and was only supposed to have sex with his wife. I guess common sense isn't a required trait for being a prophet.:sarcastic

The whole mess is embarrassing. Its like bad family members.

The world is growing up, and the bad nephew always in jail is still screwing up and wont get his act together.
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 80: `Abasa: [1]

[80:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[80:2] He frowned and turned aside,
[80:3] Because there came to him the blind man.
[80:4] And what makes thee know that he may be seeking to purify himself,
[80:5] Or he may take heed and the Reminder may benefit him?
[80:6] As for him who is disdainfully indifferent.
[80:7] Unto him thou dost pay attention,
[80:8] Though thou art not responsible if he does not become purified.
[80:9] But he who comes to thee hastening,
[80:10] And he fears God,
[80:11] Him dost thou neglect.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world.

Regard

I don't think anyone claimed that the Quran is a complete copy of the Torah.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 80: `Abasa: [3]

[80:21] Then He makes the Way easy for him,
[80:22] Then He causes him to die and assigns a grave to him;
[80:23] Then, when He pleases, He will raise him up again.
[80:24] Nay! he has not yet done what He commanded him to do.
[80:25] Now let man look at his food:
[80:26] How We pour down water in abundance,
[80:27] Then We cleave the earth — a proper cleaving —
[80:28] Then We cause to grow therein grain,
[80:29] And grapes and vegetables,
[80:30] And the olive and the date-palm.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world by quoting from that book and providing the link.

Regard
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 80: `Abasa: [3]

[80:21] Then He makes the Way easy for him,
[80:22] Then He causes him to die and assigns a grave to him;
[80:23] Then, when He pleases, He will raise him up again.
[80:24] Nay! he has not yet done what He commanded him to do.
[80:25] Now let man look at his food:
[80:26] How We pour down water in abundance,
[80:27] Then We cleave the earth — a proper cleaving —
[80:28] Then We cause to grow therein grain,
[80:29] And grapes and vegetables,
[80:30] And the olive and the date-palm.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world by quoting from that book and providing the link.

Regard
All very unoriginal. Yes he does all things yada yad, god is great, heard it all before, "the lord does all things". Unfortunately worse than copied it is also untrue. Science has shown how these things happen and god aint it. Man reeps what he sows by our own blood and sweat. Sure "rain come on the good as well as the wicked" but this planet isn't exactly a paradise.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
All very unoriginal. Yes he does all things yada yad, god is great, heard it all before, "the lord does all things". Unfortunately worse than copied it is also untrue. Science has shown how these things happen and god aint it. Man reeps what he sows by our own blood and sweat. Sure "rain come on the good as well as the wicked" but this planet isn't exactly a paradise.

You could not quote the book where-from the chapter has been copied.
So Quran is not copied from anywhere.

Regards
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Then quote from the book where-from the above chapter has been copied/plagiarized/adapted.

Regards

I already presented the mythology and you ignore it and post some other verses you would rather debate. Well I pointed those out too, nothing original. Adam is in the Quran right, that mythology is plagiarized. Like some director got the old Spiderman comics and put his own spin on it.:yes:
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
You could not quote the book where-from the chapter has been copied.
So Quran is not copied from anywhere.

Regards
The whole of theology is whats plagairized. Don't prentend that monotheism hasn't been around for thousands and thousands of years. No bible then there would never have been a quran, all the characters and stories belong to the bible.

Those verse you present don't have to be copied when I already pointed out other stories. But if you must fight about those specific I showed how unoriginal the whole thing is. Bible says the same things. God does all these things, rains on good and wicked. Please, you can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Let me put it to you this way, paarsurrey. There are two options for the Quran since it insists on borrowing someone elses god. Either all the Abrahamic religions have truth and god keeps trying to reach us, or all of them are a sham. Musliims paint themselves in a corner by using someone elses god and trying to claim nobody worships the right god. Is god that idiotic that he can't maintain a covenant, pffft?
 
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