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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
The whole of theology is whats plagairized. Don't prentend that monotheism hasn't been around for thousands and thousands of years. No bible then there would never have been a quran, all the characters and stories belong to the bible.

Those verse you present don't have to be copied when I already pointed out other stories. But if you must fight about those specific I showed how unoriginal the whole thing is. Bible says the same things. God does all these things, rains on good and wicked. Please, you can't have your cake and eat it too, sorry.

Response: Similarity is not evidence of plagiarism, nor does it mean plagiarism. So the argument for plagiarism is invalid.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Response: Similarity is not evidence of plagiarism, nor does it mean plagiarism. So the argument for plagiarism is invalid.

I know what plagiarism is.

Many people think of plagiarism as copying another's work or borrowing someone else's original ideas.

God is hardly an original idea and certainly not the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Response: Similarity is not evidence of plagiarism, nor does it mean plagiarism. .

:facepalm:

It factually can be evidence.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/plagiarism


an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:

closely imitating

Is similar.


Go back to school and please learn how to read a definition and comprehend it.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
All credible scholars claim it is plagiarized mythology from the pre existing sources

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. It has much in common with the stories and teachings of Judaism and Christianity

This mythology is "closely imitating" the bible

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology.

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED


The Qur'an retells in detail the Jewish tale of Joseph, who was sold to an Egyptian,[13] and the Christian tale of Mary, the mother of Jesus



That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED


From a modern scholarly perspective, similarities between Biblical and Quranic accounts of the same person or event are evidence for the influence of pre-existing traditions on the composition of the Qur'an.



That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 80: `Abasa: [4]

[80:31] And walled gardens thickly planted,
[80:32] And fruits and herbage,
[80:33] Provision for you and your cattle.
[80:34] But when the deafening shout comes,
[80:35] On the day when a man flees from his brother,
[80:36] And from his mother and his father,
[80:37] And from his wife and his sons,
[80:38] Every man among them that day will have concern enough to make him indifferent to others.
[80:39] On that day some faces will be bright,
[80:40] Laughing, joyous!
[80:41] And some faces, on that day, will have dust upon them,
[80:42] Darkness will cover them.
[80:43] Those are the ones that disbelieved and were wicked.

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.

Regard
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
All credible scholars claim it is plagiarized mythology from the pre existing sources

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. It has much in common with the stories and teachings of Judaism and Christianity

This mythology is "closely imitating" the bible

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology.

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED


The Qur'an retells in detail the Jewish tale of Joseph, who was sold to an Egyptian,[13] and the Christian tale of Mary, the mother of Jesus

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED

From a modern scholarly perspective, similarities between Biblical and Quranic accounts of the same person or event are evidence for the influence of pre-existing traditions on the composition of the Qur'an.

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED

I don't agree with you.

Regards
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
I know what plagiarism is.



God is hardly an original idea and certainly not the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

Response: If you know what plagiarism is, then that means the claim that because something is similar then it is plagiarized is false, since similarity does not mean plagiarism Thus your logic that the Qur'an is plagiarized is invalid, since you use such faulty logic.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
since similarity does not mean plagiarism .

:facepalm:You cant read English can you??


All credible scholars claim it is plagiarized mythology from the pre existing sources

Islamic mythology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

. It has much in common with the stories and teachings of Judaism and Christianity

This mythology is "closely imitating" the bible

Islam incorporates many Biblical events and heroes into its own mythology.

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED


The Qur'an retells in detail the Jewish tale of Joseph, who was sold to an Egyptian,[13] and the Christian tale of Mary, the mother of Jesus

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED

From a modern scholarly perspective, similarities between Biblical and Quranic accounts of the same person or event are evidence for the influence of pre-existing traditions on the composition of the Qur'an.

That means FACTUALLY PLAGIARIZED




Plagiarism | Define Plagiarism at Dictionary.com


an act or instance of using or closely imitating the language and thoughts of another author without authorization and the representation of that author's work as one's own, as by not crediting the original author:


Quote:
closely imitating, Is similar.


Go back to school and please learn how to read a definition and comprehend it. :slap:
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Have you actually read what I said? Read again. Your request makes no sense.

I did read your post. They started with the word "copying" when they could not prove it then the moved to using the words "adapting" and "plagiarizing".

Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 79: Al-Nazi`at: [1]

[79:1] In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[79:2] By those beings who draw people to true faith vigorously,
[79:3] And by those who tie their knots firmly,
[79:4] And by those who glide along swiftly,
[79:5] Then they advance and greatly excel others,
[79:6] Then they manage the affair entrusted to them.
[79:7] This will happen on the day when the quaking earth shall quake,
[79:8] And a second quaking shall follow it.
[79:9] On that day hearts will tremble,
[79:10] And their eyes will be cast down —
[79:11] They say, ‘Shall we really be restored to our former state?
[79:12] ‘What! even when we are rotten bones?’

The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.


Regard
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
The rules of the college/university are made to evaluate and judge the ability of the students.

Regards

I don't think any religious text is copied word for word, now that isn't the point is it?

Is that your only point that the quran is not copied word for word in its entirety? Don't waist time we already know that.

Was some of the mythology copied? Absolutely and you refuse to address the valid issues of any mythology that may have been "copied".

We pointed out stuff from jewish tradition. Paarsurrey, Muslim sounds very much like a Abrahamic religion believe it or not.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I don't think any religious text is copied word for word, now that isn't the point is it?

Is that your only point that the quran is not copied word for word in its entirety? Don't waist time we already know that.

Was some of the mythology copied? Absolutely and you refuse to address the valid issues of any mythology that may have been "copied".

We pointed out stuff from jewish tradition. Paarsurrey, Muslim sounds very much like a Abrahamic religion believe it or not.

Muhammad received Word of revelation directly from the One-True-God, the original source of all messengers/prophets as the previous revelations had been tampered with and corrupted.

So Muhammad did not copy anything mentioned in Quran from any scripture in the region he lived in or the world at large, he did not adapt anything and he plagiarized nothing from any other source . In fact he did not author anything written in Quran. He took the whole of Quran it from the Origin.

Regards
 
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