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Is rebirth good or a bad thing ?
- Thread starter chinu
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No.
Good concise answer, something like I'd use if i was permitted by the OP to answer the question.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I view rebirth as a matter of fact as evidenced by the life we have now.
I highly doubt this is only the one single time the lights ever came on for all eternity.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I view rebirth as a matter of fact as evidenced by the life we have now.
I highly doubt this is only the one single time the lights ever came on for all.
Weither it's good or bad is moot as there will be no reference to draw from.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I don't believe in rebirth, so I will refrain from casting a value judgement. I'll just add some context.
In the two big religions which have rebirth in their theology, Buddhism and Hinduism, rebirth happens when a soul fails to reach Nirvana in a lifetime. Basically, class failed, repeat and do better next time.
You'll be the judge if that is a good thing.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Well even Buddhism dosent tout rebirth nor should it ought to. It's a personal thing really.
Muffled
Jesus in me
It means another death and I just don't like death.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe life is worth living so nirvana is not my goal.
Maninthemiddle
Active Member
If Reincarnation is a necessary Journey to reach your final destination then it is obviously a good thing.
Muffled
Jesus in me
In Christianity there is salvation as an alternative to Hell and it doesn't matter which lifetime you make your final choice.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Good then you will be happy to know that nirvana is not a form of fatalism.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
You been reading too much Bahai - no souls in Buddhism.
On the plus side, it's nice to see you didn't conflate rebirth and reincarnation.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Fence sitter.
Heyo
Veteran Member
So, what gets reborn if there is no soul (or whatever different word means the same thing)?You been reading too much Bahai - no souls in Buddhism.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
What is generally understood to mean "soul" is an unchanging permanently abiding self, yes? The fundamental ideas of anatta (non-self) and anicca (impermanence) are often taken to mean that there is therefore no such thing which is commonly known as a "soul." I think an analogy of the "what" (from the oldest texts) is of a candle being lit by the flame from another candle. Perhaps the most straightforward answer to your question is that "what" is reborn could be taken as a reference to consciousness. However, beyond that the understanding of rebirth varies considerably across the major traditions, schools and individuals (Buddhism is a vehicle that is neither revealed nor literalist); such as (two random examples): the thinking behind the search for the next Dalai Lama or that rebirth is simply the moment to moment experience of life (and that there is no "what" or it is unknown or ineffable).
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that sounds confused.
YellowFeather
Member
When Judgement day comes those who have done good will rise to the resurrection of life. Those who have done evil will rise to damnation. Their soul will die forever. John: chapter 5: 28 - 29