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Is religion devised stupidity to control the people?

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Sorry, I must disagree slightly on that. Bible tells eternal life is for righteous. And righteous person doesn’t sin
Proverbs 24:16 says that the righteous DO sin; what separates them from the unrighteous is that they pick themselves off the ground, repent, and return to God's ways. “For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.”
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
In use science theories by men.

Star groups star thesis first.. claims earth as a converted planet. Space radiation included.

Posed the thesis.

So you scientific calculated spatial radiation past causes you quote equals why earth is now a smaller O held space mass that preowned scientific conversion.

Stone rock is first not radiating.

Half of your dust conversion the planet body owns radiating causes.

From core release he says I caused it. Yet in the end earth owned its causes and not science.

So you take new present dust not in fission. Use old earth advice included.

Is partially in his changed fusion dust state already.

You built the rest of the design to finish dusts existence into fission yourself.

Reason earth does not apply nor own it's dust fission on the ground in a bio atmosphere.

So science says I own in science earths core radiation released plus power plant machine status. A continuation of converting. Dusts.

One science.
One machine.
One reaction.

Machine controlled as nature never controlled the reaction it only released a portion in fusion of ground fusion.

You stated Moses invented the dead sea. Ground erupted around Jerusalem area not quite volcanic by chemistry but colder.

You scientist did it.

Your idea a colder not direct gas heavens stone gas history.

Idealised from hot volcanic mass first. Don't want hot volcanic mass.

Invented its causes.

Reason earth erupted historic once into a conversion before it recooled.

Origin status..planet Earth did not own one mass equals as the facure.

Ended life with you trying to force it to be one facure volcanic.

Space took over control now holds a smaller earth that is held by increased space.

Laws changed.

You Idealise your own last science owned evils yourselves.

Today own the same claims if I can destroy all life again. Reclaim one facure caused.

Thesis first I look at the smallest bodies in water...if I destroy them then all life should die is reasoned.

I will try to make them all be just bacterias. One term.

Is possessed in thesis.

He wants earth to be a subjected thesis just one historic origin mass status in energy. A one of type he says.

A bacteria is nothing like a volcanic mass.

Father wonders why you would be comparing the nature of one type of form in thesis as a human who taught earth is owner of diverse substances?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Proverbs 24:16 says that the righteous DO sin; what separates them from the unrighteous is that they pick themselves off the ground, repent, and return to God's ways. “For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.”
Very logical post ^ above ^ because I find the Bible encourages a long-range view of things.
Thus, what counts in the end (Matthew 25:37) is Not how many times we fall, but how many times we get up again.
In other words, the ones counted or separated as righteous 'sheep' can recover to be counted as righteous ones.
ALL sin is wickedness, but Not all sinners are wicked, but have weaknesses.
Lapsing back into sin due to weaknesses, but still can be counted as righteous because of sincere repentance.
Genuine repenting is the basis for mercy - Isaiah 55:7 - for those calling on God - Psalms 86:5.
So, in our race for everlasting life no one needs to resign because this spiritual race is like a marathon (endurance race).
A marathon runner, if he stumbles has time to recover and finish the race and get back in step with Christ as Leader.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Proverbs 24:16 says that the righteous DO sin; what separates them from the unrighteous is that they pick themselves off the ground, repent, and return to God's ways. “For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.”

Why do you think "man falleth" means "man sin"? I think it does not say "righteous do sin".
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Why do you think "man falleth" means "man sin"? I think it does not say "righteous do sin".
When it says the just fall, it means that the just sin. So yes, the righteous are not perfect. what sets them apart from the wicked is that they repent.
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
If there wern't any poor religious leaders all the churches would stay open. Too many close every year for lack of funds. However, there are some leaders who are rich who have poor people in their congregation who donate everything so their rich leader can live a lavish lifestyle. That's what makes me sick.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
When it says the just fall, it means that the just sin. ....

Can you explain why do you think so? I don't think falling, failing or making mistake is necessary also sin. I think it becomes sin, if it is done in sinful state of mind, if person is unrighteous and the meaning is to do wrongly.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Can you explain why do you think so? I don't think falling, failing or making mistake is necessary also sin. I think it becomes sin, if it is done in sinful state of mind, if person is unrighteous and the meaning is to do wrongly.
I'm not sure how to answer this. It's so obvious its like looking at the sun in the sky. Fall refers to a moral fall, aka a sin. It doesn't refer to physically falling down.

What do YOU think "fall" refers to in Proverbs 24:16?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
What evidence is there to validate this claim?
Philosophy the study of causes was one status only.

Science plus building by design. Civilization first. Invention second.

Attacked life by science fall out nuclear.

Temples exploded fell. Science buildings. Pyramids collapsed. Ground sunk also.

Flooding was a cause of ground mass sink.

Loss of tectonic carpenter fusion. In ground mass. Rome the last burning. Nero.

So Phi resonance fallout in atmosphere and ground radiation released placed demon strata in life.

Church was built as life's protection. So were the cities laid out on a resonating pattern of protecting those living within.

As a scientific aware status.

Why the temple churches were so acutely planned by design for sound.

What our holy father new modern updated feedback records told me. Dying everyday early age death.

Look to Italy cities condition built on ground sink.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
I'm not sure how to answer this. It's so obvious its like looking at the sun in the sky. Fall refers to a moral fall, aka a sin. It doesn't refer to physically falling down.

What do YOU think "fall" refers to in Proverbs 24:16?

I understand it means that person fails in what he is doing, makes a mistake, goes astray. And I think the difference between wicked and righteous in this is, righteous person doesn’t really want that, wicked person wants it, or doesn't care.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
We are all humans first.

Then a human theist standing on a consuming stopped sealed planet says I want to theories space past.

Space is empty it says no theory exists.

So we all need to look at just the human theist. A human first in the exact same life living conditions as everyone else.

Why are you theist different?

Their mind status says so. To theory.

In other words egotism. Fakery.

A human as men brothers agreed to use of humans scientific terms

Thesis.

Humans invented maths.

So the bible says man's choice maths use against earth O mass. The place of machine practiced sciences is predictable.

Human behaviour is involved first
Human choice in behaviour second.

Predicted by the human theist thinker using maths.

Said I theory life's sacrificed destruction. Knows he does. Named it satanic. Against gods forms.

Gods forms taught as not science just evolved presence.

Hence God is not science. Never was his science.

The teaching.

Science is abstract from humans reasoning why they said God was just the evolution status.

Earths heavens supports sacrificed bio human life to exist. Yet the sacrificed life is dying from early age death.

So humans quote our family is still living sacrificed. Term is sacrificed.

Sacrificed means by its word a past term.

Healthy humans life body not sacrificed.

The not sacrificed biology allows the sacrificed biology to live sacrificed tormented tortured our healthy human teaching

The teaching said men in past human science caused biological mutations.

No science allowed.

Agreed by the seen sacrificed life.

As the healthy humans know if sacrificed life living dies out we then all inherit being sacrificed. As healthy life.

Is the cause effect.

We learn being a human being observing.

Science biology said lots of new human biological sacrificed are occurring.

Old types of human sacrificed body types were listed.

Our modern time life sacrifice nothing like olden days sacrificed.

So the bible said three times with our saviour ice returning will our brother the scientist sacrifice life.

And here we are today living it.

Ice is melting.

So we are in the third warning.

Three times science human ignore the science cause of life being sacrificed. Ignored Jesus teaching said men.

First Moses event.
Second Jesus event.
Living third event.

Same behaviour human scientists ignoring all advice from equal human family. The humans living the sacrifice. Witness of it.

So the religion Jehovah's witness is being expressed by humans choice.

Who said when I am a Jehovah's witness the meek will lay with the beast.

And animals water life conscious like we are also began lying with animals that normally ate them.

Seems real to me all the warnings.

We are seeing it happening.
 
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muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
I understand it means that person fails in what he is doing, makes a mistake, goes astray. And I think the difference between wicked and righteous in this is, righteous person doesn’t really want that, wicked person wants it, or doesn't care.
Yes .. a righteous person will ask for forgiveness of his sins.

"Our Father, whom art in hevaen,
...
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses [sins],
as we forgive them that trespass [sin] against us,
and deliver us from evil

..."
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
We all live on earth as humans.

Human claim....don't preach to me.
Don't force scientific thesis about nothing thesis on my life.

First state. A human is natural.
First state. A human is equal.
First state. A human is innocent

First.

So anyone not agreeing with holy first human life is detailing science.

Natural history man said don't destroy my life with science.

Ignored as the co joined human agreed world community first. Family.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I understand it means that person fails in what he is doing, makes a mistake, goes astray. And I think the difference between wicked and righteous in this is, righteous person doesn’t really want that, wicked person wants it, or doesn't care.
And the kind of mistake is a moral mistake. We aren't talking about getting to work late.

And according to this verse, the just DO make these moral mistakes, aka sins. The difference is that the just pick themselves back up again and repent, while the wicked just live with their butts on the ground.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
And the kind of mistake is a moral mistake. We aren't talking about getting to work late.

And according to this verse, the just DO make these moral mistakes, aka sins. The difference is that the just pick themselves back up again and repent, while the wicked just live with their butts on the ground.
Everyone knew.

Human sex as parents to own a baby.

Everyone is that baby.

We say holy life is a baby with two mutual sex beings.

Then...
Men.

Irradiated.

Had sex with virgins. Sex was forced. Different penis feeling.

Think the truth.

So anal muscles are very strong.

Reminder of virgins sex.

So you see some men claiming when in biologically death I still have sex with virgins.

They blow people up.

Straight away you see possession of mind being enacted

Humans in sex condition have a chemical reaction to imbalanced minds that is their claim they claim I love. Reactive sex chemistry.

They are in fact in love with sex.

So sexual promiscurity is witnessed as imbalanced brains.

In healing the spirit showed me a brain image with crystalline substance as a heavy metal effect layered in the brain.

On top of the cellular mass. I don't know if medical machines can see that distance.

Why I believe in my natural first origin highest aware life before science the lie was practiced.

As we were that astute first.

Why sexual promiscurity became love of sex in conditions my changed brain chemistry
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Yes .. a righteous person will ask for forgiveness of his sins.

"Our Father, whom art in hevaen,
...
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses [sins],
as we forgive them that trespass [sin] against us,
and deliver us from evil

..."

But, why use word “sin”, when it has the word “trespasses”? I think “trespasses” becomes “sin”, when it is done in sinfulness, when person is in sinful state.
 

muhammad_isa

Veteran Member
But, why use word “sin”, when it has the word “trespasses”?
Because it means the same. Sin means an offence that needs forgiveness.
Catholics go to confession to ask for forgiveness of sins.
"Forgive me Father, for I have sinned"

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

-1 John 1-
 
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