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Is religious a biological/genetic trait?

an anarchist

Your local loco.
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?

Before you can answer that, you have to explain what religious is and in such a way that it relates to biological as such and is distinct as a biological behaviour.
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
Before you can answer that, you have to explain what religious is and in such a way that it relates to biological as such and is distinct as a biological behaviour.
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I dunno which definition of "religious" would work in the context of biology. I suppose it would be something that expresses itself in an individual's tendency to believe in "God" or something of the sort.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
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I dunno which definition of "religious" would work in the context of biology. I suppose it would be something that expresses itself in an individual's tendency to believe in "God" or something of the sort.

"God" should still be related to some biological behavior, trait or so on.
 
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George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?
I'm thinking that it is just a more positive and life affirming view to believe in religions and afterlives and such. So, I think the draw is more psychological than biological.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
I suppose if there was a savior living on earth and you were drawn to him with your heart, that would be biological in a way.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?
Evolution is all about genetic changes and natural selection. It is through genetic changes and then selection, certain traits become part of species DNA. Religion has been major source of human social structure for thousands of years and therefore has acted similar to natural selection; divine and cultural selection, giving those who were more obedient to their religion, selective advantages. In some case, the reverse was also true, with the disbeliever genes eliminated. There is a type of funneling.

The question becomes did this selection process, by religion, concentrate our human genetics to favor the religious mind set, and thereby cause this to become engrained on our human DNA and natural brain firmware? Religion has been around at least 6000 year or more. Is that enough time to funnel the DNA into a base religious instinct/propensity, due to religious selection?

It depends on how long science think it takes the DNA/brain to change, based on repetitious behavioral selection; nature and nurture. All I was doing is applying the theory of evolution, to this long term behavior, that added it own unique selective pressures, over thousands of years. It is a valid science thesis.

I tend to belief we do have a religious instinct or propensity from all that training and selection. One thing it brings to the table is better development of the frontal lobe and imagination. Because we cannot prove gods and spirits as material things, provable by the five senses, we needed to make more use the frontal lobe, so we can exist more in the ethereal world of the imagination, where the apparent limits of the sensory world can be exceeded; innovation and art.

In science you have pure and applied scientists. The pure scientists deal with reality as is; no more and no less. It is stays sensory and seeing is believing. The applied scientists often has to be more inventive, of that which is not yet seeable by the pure scientists. It may only exist in theory. The Religious instinct provides the inner vision and faith in things not yet seen part of the material world. This is why art and architecture are part of most religions, expanding reality beyond what was here naturally; pure science. I am more of an applied scientist and have no problem going both ways; science and religion. Even this applied science of evolution idea of religious selection, is way to build a bridge for others to walk across.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
I'm thinking that it is just a more positive and life affirming view to believe in religions and afterlives and such.

I cannot speak to the views of the various Eastern religions, nor to those of ancient Egypt, but those of the ANE strike me as having precious little that was "positive and life affirming." The gods were capricious and in need of constant - albeit uncertain - appeasement, and Sheol was no cakewalk. Religion was (and is) more etiological than hopeful.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?
Why blame it all on biology? I wouldn't need to go blaming it on a natural process.

To me there's conditioning, social pressures, and the free space of the mind to be convinced and decide, there's logical arguments, the mundane and mysterious condition of being alive, and the need to answer existential questions.

Religion can compel interest, wonder, and entertain through its stories. Not that today's mainstream religion is compelling, but philosophical questions make people fascinated. In an otherwise void of meaning life, a grande purpose entices, and motivates many people, and it also unites as well as cause divisions.

To reduce it all to physical processes misses the reasons why religion comes about. Besides people have to deconstruct their religious faith over time, and it may take awhile to overcome the conditioning if they really want freedom from it.

Otherwise many people have religious desire, as well as those that don't.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
I cannot speak to the views of the various Eastern religions, nor to those of ancient Egypt, but those of the ANE strike me as having precious little that was "positive and life affirming." The gods were capricious and in need of constant - albeit uncertain - appeasement, and Sheol was no cakewalk. Religion was (and is) more etiological than hopeful.
Well, I think most people today think of having a positive afterlife (from NDE and other current cultural ideas) as a more positive outlook psychologically (the draw). And people today have pretty well abandoned more ancient confusing theology to ones that affirm love as the core (the draw again).
 
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RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Well I believe that deep down in every man, woman, and child is the sense of God; or put another way, that a sort of spiritual umbilical cord connects us to the infinite and the divine. Is that part of our nature? I believe so, in a sense. Is it part of our biology? Perhaps. But I don't consider this is something which is likely to be confirmed or denied by scientific enquiry.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
I don't know the science or thinking behind the title question Is religion a biological/genetic trait.

But I do now wonder...

I've been doing my best to be agnostic/atheist. It is what makes most logical sense to me, and also what helps me function. Yet the yearning to allow myself to believe in God is there at times. It just will seem intrinsically and intuitively logical that there is a god. I was Christian most of my life, so maybe the 20 years of conditioning hasn't worn off yet.

But I do wonder if something else is at play. Biologically, is it a natural instinct to be religious? One that has been passed on for a long time now?

I dunno, do you know anything about this topic?
The psychological and behavioral aspects of religion and spiritual experiences do have biological basis, yes. For example:

Religious practice also has various communal and social aspects, which are from our instincts as social beings.

So the answer is yes. Pretty much everything we do has some sort of biological basis.
 
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