Is Satan in you?

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Only Love is Godly; fear leads to hate, and hate leads to the dark mentality...
´cause hatred is the coward’s revenge for being intimidated.

Dark mentality = Satan’s mentality.

Do you hate someone or a group of people?
If positive, then you are hearing Satan’s voice.

Do you act upon that hate towards the person or people you hate?
If positive, then you are following Satan’s commands.

Do you hate, judge and discriminate, and then go to a church to ask forgiveness?
If positive, you are deep into Satan’s games.

Forgiveness and love are the weapons of the only true God.

Do you forgive those who actively prosecute you and insult you?
If positive, then you are following God’s will.

Do you have unconditional love towards someone?
If positive, then you are hearing God’s words.

Do you do well for others (f.e.: charity), and not ask for any kind of recognition or reward?
If positive, then you are doing God’s will.

Do you do well for others (f.e.: charity), and then go tell everyone what you did, so they tell you how good are you?
If positive, then you are doing Satan’s will.

Are you personally offended by this thread?
If positive, then you are in denial of the voice of Satan in you.

Discuss…
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[Halcyon]

Discuss… ​

Personally i see the God = good, Satan = evil thing as a cop out.

IMO, people want to see God as all good, yet the world is full of hate and evil so they blame that hate and evil on another divine being.
To me, it makes far more sense to see both good and evil action originating within the human self, as a product of our nature. And that nature, if being derived from God, reflects God's totality of existence, including both good and evil.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Personally i see the God = good, Satan = evil thing as a cop out.

IMO, people want to see God as all good, yet the world is full of hate and evil so they blame that hate and evil on another divine being.
To me, it makes far more sense to see both good and evil action originating within the human self, as a product of our nature. And that nature, if being derived from God, reflects God's totality of existence, including both good and evil.

Sometimes I don´t like words, lol. I completly agree with you, but still i believe in what I stated above as a figure of speech.
See it like this, you are right, all things are manifestations of the same thing, but at the same time, there is creation and destruction.
As Zarathustra put it: "Light or darkness, the good or the bad mentality".

My original post was to interpret God as the light (creator), and the Devil as darkness (destructor).

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

I want to add that I´m by no means talking about "Good and Evil", because those are the root of human judgement, illusions. There is no "Good or Evil" but there is creation and destruction.

 

[wizanda]

Oneness = Heaven
Ego = Satan

 

[Ori]

I did say before that Satan is a metaphor for our own darkside.

Well, thats my opinion.

 

[_атеист_]

Yes, I can be evil at times.

 

[Jaymes]

If he is, I'm suing for sexual harassment.

 

[Quiddity]

Personally i see the God = good, Satan = evil thing as a cop out.

IMO, people want to see God as all good, yet the world is full of hate and evil so they blame that hate and evil on another divine being.
To me, it makes far more sense to see both good and evil action originating within the human self, as a product of our nature. And that nature, if being derived from God, reflects God's totality of existence, including both good and evil.

Why can't it be both?

I agree with where evil originates from, but that doesn't leave out the possiblity that there exist a being who's cause is the opposite of God's. To me, that is evil.

 

[Booko]

I did say before that Satan is a metaphor for our own darkside.

Well, thats my opinion.

Pretty much mine, Ori.

I find it useful to think of Satan as a metaphor for ego attachments.

 

[cardero]

Is Satan in you?
No, Satan was never in me but Peter Frampton was once.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Oneness = Heaven
Ego = Satan

:yes:, that´s what I´m talking about

 

[Hema]

I do not believe in Satan the way people think - I think that there is a devil but he is not the equal opposite of God. I think he is more like a Chief evil spirit. God is always most powerful and no there is no Satan in me because it is the spirit of God that is keeping my body alive.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

I do not believe in Satan the way people think - I think that there is a devil but he is not the equal opposite of God. I think he is more like a Chief evil spirit. God is always most powerful and no there is no Satan in me because it is the spirit of God that is keeping my body alive.

Me neither, I´m just figuratively speaking here, it is like my understanding of the Bible.

Bottom line: Satan = Ego.

 

[gnomon]

Satan = Ego

I don't think so. It might for those who don't buy into a Christian/Manichean sense of good and evil yet feel some irrational desire to bandy around the term Satan.

Ego is an essential character of human identity. Don't believe me, go mingle with those people who suffered the destruction of their identity at the hands of others. One thing they lack which they sorely need is an ego. Ego is the sense of self.

Or, is everyone just trying to say Satan = Rat *******.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Satan = Ego

I don't think so. It might for those who don't buy into a Christian/Manichean sense of good and evil yet feel some irrational desire to bandy around the term Satan.

Ego is an essential character of human identity. Don't believe me, go mingle with those people who suffered the destruction of their identity at the hands of others. One thing they lack which they sorely need is an ego. Ego is the sense of self.

Or, is everyone just trying to say Satan = Rat *******.

Yes, Ego is an essential character of human identity, but it is deceiving and damaging for the carrier, (what the Bible calls Satan). If you don´t let yourself to be controlled by your own Ego, then you cristallize your true-nature (what the NT calls Christ).

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

<Is satan in you?

According to the teachings of the Baha'i Faith, at least potentially, yes!

Baha'is believe God is One, Supreme, and has no rival or equal! Therefore there is no "devil" competing with Him.

And "satan" simply refers to our own lower (animal) nature when we give it control instead of our higher (spiritual) nature.

So while satan potentially exists within us, it's our own choice whether or not to let this side of ourselves take over.

Hopefully, we all never do!

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

Greetings!

<Is satan in you?

According to the teachings of the Baha'i Faith, at least potentially, yes!

Baha'is believe God is One, Supreme, and has no rival or equal! Therefore there is no "devil" competing with Him.

And "satan" simply refers to our own lower (animal) nature when we give it control instead of our higher (spiritual) nature.

So while satan potentially exists within us, it's our own choice whether or not to let this side of ourselves take over.

Hopefully, we all never do!

Peace,

Bruce

Why do you think our "animal nature" is Satan? That seems a bit rough, considering we are animals.

I think that Satan resides in all of us, :yes:, but I´m not talking about "animal instincts". Animals follow "the Divine plan", they cannot think to do otherwise; we do. But the thing that separate us from following our true-nature, therefore, the "Divine plan", is exactly that division (Animal Vs Saint). We need to accept each other as we really are, the only thing that separates our "inner-animal" with our "inner-saint" is our Ego, Satan.
It is our concept of "good and evil" that´s messed up.

This struggle ("who we are" Vs "who we want to be") is the only thing separating us from our true nature.

 

[Ðanisty]

Yes, Ego is an essential character of human identity, but it is deceiving and damaging for the carrier, (what the Bible calls Satan). If you don´t let yourself to be controlled by your own Ego, then you cristallize your true-nature (what the NT calls Christ).

That's only when ego gets out of control. Ego is beneficial to humans too.

Answer me this though. What about Satanists? They can live basically the same lives as Christians. They can certainly be good people. It's dangerous to blame human behavior on a supernatural entity. It keeps people from taking responsibility.

 

[Wisdom_Seeker]

That's only when ego gets out of control. Ego is beneficial to humans too.

Answer me this though. What about Satanists? They can live basically the same lives as Christians. They can certainly be good people. It's dangerous to blame human behavior on a supernatural entity. It keeps people from taking responsibility.

What benefits do you attribute to our Egos?

I´m now in a position were I don´t differenciate much between Christians and Satanists, its just stereotyping. Although I haven´t researched much about Satanism, it freaks me out.
I suppose there are Satanists that don´t kill people, and there are Christians that kill people; so whats the difference? Maybe different names for whom they pray to.