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Is The Bible mentioned in The Bible?
- Thread starter Eddi
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No.
No
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Christians like to think it's the word of God based on verses like John chapter 1 vs 1, and 2nd Timothy 3:16.
They allude that with the Bible.
I Am Hugh
Researcher
It's a collection of scrolls, or little books, eventually divided up into verses and then chapters. Since at the time of its writing it wasn't yet completely assembled, it was referred to as scriptures among many other things. (Matthew 21:42; Romans 1:2)
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The Bible is an anthology of books and letters. The various authors would not have been aware of all the other books that would eventually become the Bible. However, parts of the Bible became accepted scriptures in stages, each stage aware of the previous stages.
The Torah was the first to be accepted. It was spliced together,redacted, and edited until it reached its final form sometime around the 6th century BCE. It was during the Maccabean era (167 to 37 BCE) that it finally became well known and followed on a large scale in Judea.
By the time of Jesus, two groups of Jews (the Pharisees and Essenes) had added the Prophets and Psalms, but this was not universally accepted--the Sadducees kept only to the Torah. After the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE, the Pharisees were the only group that survived, so the Prophets became part of the canon.
The last section of the Tanakh (Old Testament), known as the Writings, was added gradually, the last of them by the 2nd century CE.
As to the New Testament, also known as the Christian Scriptures, it was composed between 50 when 1 Thessalonians was written, to early in the second century CE with the pseudepigraphal letters of Paul were written.
The authors of each subsequent section would have been aware of previous sections, but none would have had any concept of the Bible as a whole. So for example, the Psalms refer to the Law (Torah), or the gospels refer to the prophets. But nothing refers to the Bible.
What is your evidence for this? Also, accepted by whom?
Note, for example, the list of the Biblical books found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, the top six being:
- 39 -- Psalms
- 33 -- Deuteronomy
- 25 -- 1 Enoch
- 24 -- Genesis
- 22 -- Isaiah
- 21 -- Jubilees
- 18 -- Exodus
- 17 -- Leviticus
- 11 -- Numbers
YellowFeather
Member
The Bible is a word meaning more then one. Meaning there is more then one book. The way the Bible is discribed is the Word of God.
Hebrews 13:7 Remember them which have the ruler over you, who have spoken unto you the Word of God: Whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Hebrews 13:7 Remember them which have the ruler over you, who have spoken unto you the Word of God: Whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.
Tomef
Well-Known Member
It does refer to scripture in various parts, as in ‘all scripture is god-breathed’, with the claim that anything written in apostolic epistles should be considered inspired. But that would probably mean other writings that didn’t survive too, and the OT+NT bible in the form we have it now didn’t exist until much later.
Tomef
Well-Known Member
I think ‘bible’ means the official, comprehensive guide to something or other. Like the official compendium.
YellowFeather
Member
Ones who use the words I Think this is what something believes means that they have no clue what the knowledge of the Bible or its purpose for mankind. They only want to pull ones away from the truth of the Word of God so that you will follow in the way of the world and live unhappy lives.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The Torahs authority is already reflected in Ezra and Nehemiah, both believed to have been written in the 5th century BCE. Nehemiah 8:1 "Now all the people gathered as one man to the square that was before the Water Gate, and they said to Ezra the scholar to bring the scroll of the Law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded Israel." This depicts how the Torah was read authoritatively after the return from captivity.
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In other words, you have no evidence. Nice chat ...
YellowFeather
Member
The Bible means the Word of God. The Bible teaches us what Gods word is and how to follow his word. Only them that study the Bible and follow God's word will be rewarded with him.
Balthazzar
N. Germanic Descent
No, but I think something is mentioned in Revelation about not making changes to the book. I'll presume it's about that specific book and not the entire bible, so...
No
Yes, I think there is such a thing
YellowFeather
Member
The entire Bible is the Word of God. Word of God is mentioned in the Bible from Genesis to Revelations. Only them that follow the Word of God is of God.
Tomef
Well-Known Member
Bible: a book regarded as authoritative in a particular sphere.
YellowFeather
Member
The bible is not mentioned in the bible because the bible is given to the whole book that relates to many books. As one truly reads the Bible they will see that the Bible is the Word of God.