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Is the God of Islam the same God of Christianity?

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
The Islamic point of view is that Allah is the Arabic proper noun for the God mentioned in the three original orthodox Abrahamic religions. In other languages it could be different. Just like Jesus is Eisa and Noah is Nooh in Arabic!
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
The Islamic point of view is that Allah is the Arabic proper noun for the God mentioned in the three original orthodox Abrahamic religions. In other languages it could be different. Just like Jesus is Eisa and Noah is Nooh in Arabic!

She means by "Jehovah" that it's the real Name of God. Like his first name or something like that, so Jehovah doesn't means Allah as Allah means God while Jehovah is a name not a noun.
I don't know if it has a particular meaning as it's in Hebrew i guess.
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Hum, never heard of that ...

It was meant to be a bit of dry humor. Though I have met Met muslims in the past that told me that they believe that the Jews (who thought they killed Jesus) made up the stuff about Jesus claiming to bet he son of god. I will admit I don't know if thats dogma or their opinion.
 

Gehennaite

Active Member
They're basically the same character. Hypocrites to their own morality. Logical travesties: "Love me unconditionally. I'll love you conditionally".
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Slightly off-topic, but does that mean that if I'm a non-Trinitarian I could still be a Christian?
Slightly more on topic, but what does it mean for Muslims and Christians?

I believe anyone can call himself a Christian but I believe a Christian without the Trinity is a cultural Christian and not a born again Christian.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
The God of the bible has the name Jehovah.

Do Muslims and the Quran recognize this name of God???

The Quraan is in Arabic and Jesus is called Eisa in Arabic and Eisa is recognized by Muslims and the Quraan. Therefore Jesus is recognized by Muslims and the Quraan!

Same thing with different names of the God in different languages used on different books!

The name only is not the real thing, but the reference!

I call Allah God when I speak English, and type/write it with capital G. This does not mean I do not recognize the name Allah!

Sorry for the extended explanation!
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
The Quraan is in Arabic and Jesus is called Eisa in Arabic and Eisa is recognized by Muslims and the Quraan. Therefore Jesus is recognized by Muslims and the Quraan!

Same thing with different names of the God in different languages used on different books!

The name only is not the real thing, but the reference!

I call Allah God when I speak English, and type/write it with capital G. This does not mean I do not recognize the name Allah!

Sorry for the extended explanation!


thats ok, i like extended explanations :D


I know muslims have come to believe that Allah is the name of God... but in reality, Allah 'means' god in arabic. Its not a personal name. If you say 'Allah God' to me, i hear it as 'God God'.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
In fact, God has MANY names and titles in the various languages and cultures, and they are all equally acceptable!

Just a few of these names are: God, Boje, Jehovah, Dieu, Wankantanka, El, Jumala, Gott, Yahweh, Dios, Brahman, Elohim, Allah, Isten, Bog, Yazdan, Adonai, Parvadegar, and Huda.

ANY of these are just fine! :)


Bruce
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Muslims certainly do not worship the Trinity, such as most professed "Christians" do. I agree that Allah is not the same god as Jehovah. So IMO, Muslims do not worship the same God as true Christians worship.

False on both counts. First of all, the "Trinity" is not a slam dunk even within Christianity and, secondly, a root name for God that relates and evolved to "Eloheim" and "Allah" is "El" in the Sumerian language.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
thats ok, i like extended explanations :D


I know muslims have come to believe that Allah is the name of God... but in reality, Allah 'means' god in arabic. Its not a personal name. If you say 'Allah God' to me, i hear it as 'God God'.


the grammaire of Arabic is different than English (I mean we don't use verb TO BE in Arabic to link between noun and verb :)

Exemple :
Allah Akbar (two word in Arabic), it's mean " God is Great " (three words in English )
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
I believe anyone can call himself a Christian but I believe a Christian without the Trinity is a cultural Christian and not a born again Christian.
What about if they are active, converted (not raised in the faith) and ardently believe? How can they still be "cultural Christians"?
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
the grammaire of Arabic is different than English (I mean we don't use verb TO BE in Arabic to link between noun and verb :)

Exemple :
Allah Akbar (two word in Arabic), it's mean " God is Great " (three words in English )

thanks for that.

How would you translate into Arabic the following phrase:

"My God is Almighty and above all other gods"
 

CynthiaCypher

Well-Known Member
In fact, God has MANY names and titles in the various languages and cultures, and they are all equally acceptable!

Just a few of these names are: God, Boje, Jehovah, Dieu, Wankantanka, El, Jumala, Gott, Yahweh, Dios, Brahman, Elohim, Allah, Isten, Bog, Yazdan, Adonai, Parvadegar, and Huda.

ANY of these are just fine! :)


Bruce

Also Ialdabaoth and Saklas. Those names more apt are even better.
 

Cordoba

Well-Known Member
thats ok, i like extended explanations :D


I know muslims have come to believe that Allah is the name of God... but in reality, Allah 'means' god in arabic. Its not a personal name. If you say 'Allah God' to me, i hear it as 'God God'.

Small linguistic correction there Pegg:

ilah 'means' god in arabic (not Allah)
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
I have Muslim friends from around the world. In several conversations, we always discuss about religion. Over time, I have noticed that Muslims from North Africa (especially, those who are from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Lybia) consider the Muslim God the same God of Christianity. However, the Muslims of Asia (Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, etcetera) have a very different position: they say that the Muslim God has nothing to do with the Christian God. So, according to this confusion (perhaps I'm generalizing), I would like you to manifest your opinions about this interesting fact.

The God of Islam seems much more cold, callous and distant than the God of Christianity, Who is loving, compassionate and always with us.
 

Cordoba

Well-Known Member
The God of Islam is actually very loving and very caring Shiranui

He is the Most Merciful, and He forgives all sins, through a direct sincere repentance

The Creator is One, the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, peace be upon them all
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
thats ok, i like extended explanations :D


I know muslims have come to believe that Allah is the name of God... but in reality, Allah 'means' god in arabic. Its not a personal name. If you say 'Allah God' to me, i hear it as 'God God'.

Cool, I was worried there for a moment :)

Okay, I'll give you the best answer you can find for the word Allah. I'm an Arab after all :)

Allah does indeed have a meaning, but that is something all Arabic names have. Literally in Arabic Allah it does not just mean "god", it means "the only god worthy of worshiping". But that is just the meaning of the word. God referred to himself in the Quraan as Allah, in proper noun form, or a person name.

Having a name like "Saeed" in Arabic, which means happy (hehe :)) does not mean that the person carrying the name is actually happy, but just that it is the name he was given and used then referred to himself with. Saeed alone means happy, but in this example it is a proper noun, person's name, that refers to a man.

Muslims say "la ilah illa Allah" that means no god but Allah, and it was not made by us, but was dictated to us by Allah in the Quraan.

My real name is Abdulilah (Abd + Al-Ilah) which is different than Abdullah (Abd + Allah). My name means literally slave of god, but the other means slave of Allah, with Allah as the proper noun God used to call himself.

Even if God refers to himself with another name in another language in another religions, being the first religion He sent, I don't see it is a good reason to say that Allah is not God's proper name in Arabic. Even in Arabic we are allowed to refer to him in other names by the way. I call Him God in English and type/write it with capital G, which is different than god with small g.

This is how Arabic names work!
 
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