Is the God of Spinoza conscious?

[idav]

When reading the description of Spinoza's god, god is nature or the universe. The attributes being apathetic with no will. But then Spinoza gets into a foundation of matter and thought, so where does thought suddenly come from. Is thiss monist as they say or a type of dualism in which he attempted to invoke a sort of choice in the matter as far as determinism goes. Is spinozas god conscious or aware?

 

[Ouroboros]

When reading the description of Spinoza's god, god is nature or the universe. The attributes being apathetic with no will. But then Spinoza gets into a foundation of matter and thought, so where does thought suddenly come from. Is thiss monist as they say or a type of dualism in which he attempted to invoke a sort of choice in the matter as far as determinism goes. Is spinozas god conscious or aware?

First, will, thought, choice, conscious, aware, are all different aspects of mind. They're not all the same thing.

Spinoza's God might have any or all of those attributes, but on a different level than we understand it. There might be that one or all attributes are irreducible primitives of nature itself, so a "quantum event" is comparable (not necessarily the same) as a "discernment" or "impression" or ...

Just my thoughts...

 

[The Sum of Awe]

It depends on what one calls living - if the will is based on complete freewill and choice then nothing is living. Although, if there appears to be a pattern or a determiner that may classify as a will, and the fact that all things have a cycle, and a group of cycles may work together as one bigger cycle, the god of Spinoza may as well have a will, and thus a "mind" of its own

 

[idav]

Thise are some wonderful ideas, I think there was still some confusion as to where cosciousness comes from but I thought I read somewhere he t hought there t9 be a primal awareness.

Tye wiki stated he denied a conscious god.

Spinoza was considered to be an atheist because he used the word "God" [Deus] to signify a concept that was different from that of traditional Judeo–Christian monotheism. "Spinoza expressly denies personality and consciousness to God; he has neither intelligence, feeling, nor will; he does not act according to purpose, but everything follows necessarily from his nature, according to law...."[8]*Thus, Spinoza's cool, indifferent God*[9]*is the antithesis to the concept of an anthropomorphic, fatherly God who cares about humanity.

Spinozism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[idav]

Been reading up some more and this thread deserves more clarification. It wouldn't be a conscious god but the philosophy Spinoza did regard God as having attributes of thought as an essence of substance, the one substance being God.

1. Attributes in the Ethics

Before discussing the theory of attributes in the Ethics, it will be helpful to keep in mind a rudimentary sketch of the general structure of Spinoza's ontology:[2]

Attributes/Substance:Thought ––– God ––– Extension|
|Infinite Modes :Infinite Intellect -- Motion and Rest|
|Finite Modes :A Mind -- A Body
Spinoza's Theory of Attributes (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
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As noted in the diagram. A mind is thought of as finite so not an attribute of god, mind can be seen as consciousness. The idea being that giving God consciousness, especially like a perfected version of human mind rather limits God. With a limitless god, you wouldn't have a god that can fathom all that he can do, rather God is eternal and limitless and not bound by his own mind.

 

[Contemplative Cat]

Mind is not consciousness, because mind is all the stuff that comes up in consciousness.
it would be worth reseaching pan-experientialism.