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Is the POPE really HOLY?

Do you think the pope is Holy?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 25.0%
  • No

    Votes: 18 75.0%

  • Total voters
    24

First Baseman

Retired athlete
Atheism is not by definition a statement that no god can possibly exist. It is a position that the evidence for a god is insufficient to support such an outlandish claim. I never stated to anyone that I think it is an impossibility. I simply think it is highly improbable given the lack of sound evidence.

I do not have to prove your god does not exist anymore than you have to prove that all the other gods you do not believe in do not exist. That is an absurd assertion.

If he exists because I cannot prove he does not, then so do all the other gods by the same reasoning. Not to mention fairies.

According to Webster's:

atheism
noun athe·ism \ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm\
Definition of ATHEISM
1
archaic :
ungodliness, wickedness
2
a : a disbelief in the existence of deity

b : the doctrine that there is no deity


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

Your definition lacks the extreme faith that atheism requires. To disbelieve in all deities is an assumption based on pure faith.

Assumption based on the humanist belief system of faith that no deity exists is what all of atheism is based and built on. You atheists assume a great deal.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
It is not sarcasm at all.

Since God and carrot loving invisible monsters have the same evidence, I don't see why my faith in the absence in God should be stronger, or more worthy of attention, than my faith in the absence of invisible monsters.

Do you also have faith that there are no invisible mosters liking carrots?

Make this test: go to a party and declare that disbelief in the existence of invisible monsters requires faith and see what happens.

Ciao

- viole

Please do not speak to me anymore. Your mind is far too ensconced in your fallacies for you and I to have intelligent discussion. Like I said, enjoy the boards, they were made for dark sarcasm.
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
Monsters want your soul, not your vegetables.

You never know, these days we probably have vegan monsters roaming around, more interested in a good hummus plate and some soy chips than eating human flesh or sucking out souls. Souls aren't very good for you after all...too much sodium.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Please do not speak to me anymore. Your mind is far too ensconced in your fallacies for you and I to have intelligent discussion. Like I said, enjoy the boards, they were made for dark sarcasm.

I promise not to speak to you. i cannot give any guarantee about writing to you, though. But I guess you can use the ignore button if you want to be safe from me :)

Ciao

- viole
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
I promise not to speak to you. i cannot give any guarantee about writing to you, though. But I guess you can use the ignore button if you want to be safe from me :)

Ciao

- viole

You're just wasting your time replying to my posts if you expect to troll me and get a reaction that gives you your jollies. Just letting you know.

I don't ignore people. That's a good way to get a brick upside the head...
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
You're just wasting your time replying to my posts if you expect to troll me and get a reaction that gives you your jollies. Just letting you know.

I don't ignore people. That's a good way to get a brick upside the head...

I am not sure I am wasting my time. i make the assumption here that my replies to you, or to anyone else, are read by everybody.

And that is the main reson why ignoring someone is basically useless. Or even detrimental.

Ciao

- viole
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
In the 3 rd century - Rome was Split into two parts with 2 emperors *( Maxentius—and Constantin - seeking to Rule all of Rome. They went war against each other - and fought a battle.

The Emperor Maxentius— was defeated by the Emperor Constantine .
Constantine Butchered and Slaughtered His Way to power and Murdered His Wife to secure His Future as Emperor. Thinking that His Wife was not Loyal enough to Live.

Constantine afterwards - began to experiment with merging Christianity with paganism. Pagan Dates, Pagan, Rituals, Pagan Ceremonies - PAGAN Mythology and Pagan Myths. Making His VERSION of Christianity into the LAW of the Land.

Constantine introduced the Claim of the Papal claim to temporal power.


Thereafter - a hundred years later - 400 Years - * {400 Years} - AFTER 'Christ. - {400 Years} - The ROMAN Government then made an Italian / LATIN Translation The Bible .

THEN it took the Catholic Church ANOTHER 1200 Years Years' LATER . * (( 1500 Years. after Christ ) to Produce a Bible translation into ANOTHER Language, OTHER That Latin. *( or a Translation besides Latin.

the bible is NOT a catholic Book. SO - Everything that the Catholic Believes, comes from the Authority in Rome. *( ITALY )

. "" ' They Take A FEW - Ideas, Phrases, Comments / A FEW - Characters - From the Scriptures and BLEND them with their Particular Message, and Faith - that is not Supported by Scriptures

Muslims and Catholics, SIMPLY have no Scriptures for their Faith.

They have no Bible, No History, No Truth, Their God is not the God of Abraham.

Before Constantine. The Catholic Church has no recorded, Chronicled History. There is no RECORD of the Catholic Church in the Bible. and no RECORD of the Catholic Church in World History UNTIL 300 Years later when Constantine Began to Mix Characters and ideas of the Bible - with His Pagan beliefs around Him.

Making the mixture into the law of the Land. Called CATHOLIC UNIVERSAL LAW.

Catholics simply have no Bible.

400 Years after Jesus - The ROMAN Catholic organization Produced its Latin Translation of the Bible.

1500 Years after Christ The ROMAN Catholic organization Produced a Non Latin Translation of the Bible.

The Pope is HOLY to people who do not LIKE the bible - The Pope is Holy to people who are not really interested in the BIble.

The pope is Holy to people who dislike the BIble - and seek to pretend to have a Connection, an Admiration and an Association and a Bond with Abraham. But they really dislike Abraham and are unsatisfied and Disgusted with Abraham and The Polygamous ways of His SCRIPTURES and Children and Generations.

If Abraham or Jacob or Solomon - were alive today. Catholics would not Like Him. They would Put them into Jail or Persecute them,

Catholics also are Un Satisfied with the Characters of the New Testament. They are are not Happy with the Mary, * They don't Like Her as She is Presented in the Bible.

or Jesus and The Basic - Simple - teachings of the Bible. They insist on making up other things about the passages and the Characters to suit their Personal Lust and Personal tast. Mary of scriptures is not the Mary that Catholics Love.

The Pope is Holy to People who do not find Satisfaction in the Scriptures. They are at Odds or *( WAR ) with Jesus, Mary and Abraham. So they seek to REPRESENT them in their Own Image of Holiness.

And the Pope Is a Headman who collects the complaints and dis- taste and hatred that these Catholics have for the Bible and its message

and the Pope Re Presents the bible - to Be changed to fit Their Own Form of Holiness and their Personal Preferences. Changing - Adding - Subtracting and Altering from the original message.

To Catholics - This makes Him Holy.


Catholics have made up a List of Popes Listing Peter as the First pope .
But this List is False. There is no Record of Peter Being Catholic

No RECORD or history in the Bible or anywhere of anyone Leading a Church in Rome with Catholic Religious Ideas . Until 300 Years after Jesus.

that's Why it took rome 400 Years after Christ ( 400 years ( --- To PRODUCE a Latin Translation of the Bible.

Then 1500 Years *( 1500 Years ) After Christ for the Catholic Church to Produce a Bible Translation into another Language. * Other Than Latin )

That's because Catholics have no Scriptures for their Faith. Their faith Lies in the Opinions, Writings, Fantasy and imagination s and ALTERATIONS of the popes and other Italian / German Men who help them COPE and sort through the Fact that they Do not Really Like Abraham . In fact they really dislike Abraham,. Pretending to Like Him.

most People only Pretend
to have this GREAT Connection, RESPECT, ADMIRATION Special LOVE and Bond with Abraham.
There's soon much wrong with this -- I don't even know where to start. It's like narrow-minded dogma threw up all over the thread. Somebody get me a historical and theological hand-wipe!
 
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