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Is the Quran only for Muslims?
- Thread starter Muslim Atheism
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Since you like to go in circles, I'd gladly do the same: you blame me for what better describes what you say. Specifically the third line above, and how it describes what you typed in red.
You sure do
However, I'd like to tell you a little secret (a reminder). The Quran is a source and we believe is credible.
outhouse
Atheistically
NOT a credible source.
Faith is not how we determine what happened in the past, and since you admit to this.
You admit to fanaticism and fundamentalist views of history.
One more time, if you cannot show evidence anything is historical, it is not historical.
There is a reason not ONE credible scholar in the whole world uses your book as a historical source, Do I need to spell out why?
P-L-A-G-I-A-R-I-Z-A-T-I-O-N
And it is your own people fighting and killing one another over, and members terrorizing the whole world due to their own little fundamentalist view.
MosT muslims are good people, but that is not a reflection of the religion, that is in peoples nature. Take this religion away, and the yearly death count would drop. IMHO
outhouse
Atheistically
Why the other two religions are better IMHO if one had to have a one world religion.
Is because they do not require the level of fanaticism.
Judaism recogonizes mythology and allegory and metaphor, while leaving room for orthdox views.
Christianity also accepts most science and history, yet leaves room for their fanatics and fundamnetalist, YEC.
We dont see that with your religion, its all or nothing. It does not accept real history in any way, from what I see, ALL users are, not just a minority of fundy's.
Is because they do not require the level of fanaticism.
Judaism recogonizes mythology and allegory and metaphor, while leaving room for orthdox views.
Christianity also accepts most science and history, yet leaves room for their fanatics and fundamnetalist, YEC.
We dont see that with your religion, its all or nothing. It does not accept real history in any way, from what I see, ALL users are, not just a minority of fundy's.
Muslim Atheism
Matheist
I guess it is between 'responding to tone' and 'contradiction', with some 'ad hominem'. . . but not a counterargument. . not an argument.
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(blast from the bast)
It's okay, your opinion. My opinion is that it is a credible source. This applies to all of your other views too. To each their own
And, I didn't know your scholars where gods to have their words only as credible
I see that you finally use expressions such as "IMHO"
. That's a good start. All you have to do now is to please consider pushing your opinions as perfect 100% undisputed facts.Do you know that Arabs in the past before Islam used to bury their new born female babies alive? The only thing that stopped them then was Islam. Not just by telling them to stop doing it, but through a collection of teachings. That is only one example. So if you believe Islam has absolutely nothing to do with the goodness of the good Muslims out there, please reconsider.
Note: the smilies up the are not meant to be rude. It is just my style. And I never use this:
against anyone unless it is used against me.
outhouse
Atheistically
It is only fanaticism to try and refute credible knowledge with supernatural claims.
Faith is not how we determine what happened in the past
But you claim the Quran was authored by Muhammad, and Muhammad is a real man. How's that, according to your claim, supernatural? Unless you finally believed that the Quran was sent by God?
outhouse
Atheistically
have you ever been to a credible college that teaches Israelite history only using the Koran ?
Nope. Why would they?
Um, what have I been saying all this time?
You know, about your definition of credible source and and my example of one? (okay, of "what I believe to be one").
outhouse
Atheistically
No one teaches pseudo history as real history.
No one teaches plagiarized history as real history.
Believe what you want, faith does not dictate history.
outhouse
Atheistically
No problem, to each their own
What's a Canaanite?
The origins of your god.
outhouse
Atheistically
You're asking why I worship a god, from the origin point of view?
Hey, that's racist
No.
Im asking why you worship gods that developed in Canaanite mythology?
Where Israelites compiled two gods into one, and all text was edited to say one god, all after 622 BC when King Josiah had his monotheistic reforms.
Do you worship El more then Yahweh? The father deity? or the warrior deity?
outhouse
Atheistically
Come again?
Your gods, were developed, into a national god in the Canaanite mythology.
After 1200 BC when proto Israelites were first established and still resembled their Canaanite heritage, they were polytheistic worshipping a family of gods.
El the father of all deities, and Yahweh the warrior god. They were later compiled together as one god in Israelite scripture.
Monotheism to Yahweh was not born politically as a national god, until after 622BC in which not all Israelites were fond of.
So the god your people plagiarized, originally were two distinct different gods, and I asked you quite clearly which of the two you worshipped more.
Don't you know about your own god?