Is There A Complete Truth?

[Lightkeeper]

Or is a complete truth mythological?

 

[cardero]

Is There A Complete Truth?

There are two kinds of TRUTH, Personal TRUTHs and Universal TRUTHs. I think the combining of these two TRUTHs to make an existence complete depends on how important TRUTH is for the individual and how much effort they make in the pursuit of it.

 

[Mister Emu]

What do you mean by complete truth, Pah?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

First of all, a good deal of confusion arises due to the fact that "truth" is used in two distinct ways: (a) to refer to actuality, and (b) to refer to statements about actuality.

If we limit the discussion to truth-statements, such statements, like so-called scientific laws, are man-made and, therefore, necessarily approximate, so "complete truth" is unachievable beyond a priori deductions. That does not men, however, that all truth-statments are created equal. Physicists believe, for example, that quantum physics is a more "comlete truth" than that represented by the Bohr model.

Assuming that "God(s) exist" is a proposition, "yes" or "no" are approprate answers, and one will be "true" to the extent that the other is "false". Theism or atheism represent more complete truth statements to the extent that atheism or theism more accurately describe actuality.

 

[jewscout]

I don't know what, at least when it comes to religion and G-d, there is a universal truth, at least not now. Until G-d comes down and asks everybody to a BBQ i don't think there will be an absoulte truth to that.
Not a very good answer huh? Sorry it's too early to be thinking that deeply i'll have to let it mull around for a while.

 

[Master Vigil]

I believe that truth is beyond words. Beyond finite understanding. Does this mean it doesn't exist? No, but we as finite beings only know our perceptions, which are not complete truth.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Truth statements can never be more than approximations. So?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

I have to agree with Deut here. Complete truth exists, but statements about truth are approximations. "I am six feet tall," is closer to the truth than "I am seventy stories tall."

 

[Fluffy]

A truth statement could become exact if, with it, there were given a complete list of exceptions.

I think that there is a complete truth as far as morality is concerned and i think that this can, eventually be found through logic alone.

 

[Pah]

What do you mean by complete truth, Pah?

I don't mind being thought of as Lightkeeper - she's a terrific member and super mod. But she might not like you thinking she is me! :biglaugh:

Bob

 

[cardero]

jewscout writes: I don't know what, at least when it comes to religion and G-d, there is a universal truth, at least not now. Until G-d comes down and asks everybody to a BBQ i don't think there will be an absoulte truth to that.

GOD may (should) speak complete TRUTHs fluently but the moment we try to undertand them they become our beliefs that we now have to PROVE to our TRUTH.

 

[Mister Emu]

I don't mind being thought of as Lightkeeper - she's a terrific member and super mod. But she might not like you thinking she is me!

I just saw the mistake, sorry Lightkeeper.

 

[Lightkeeper]

That's O.K. it's the beard that makes people think I'm Pah. That's the complete truth.

 

[Pah]

That's O.K. it's the beard that makes people think I'm Pah. That's the complete truth.

She's lying folks. Her face is as smooth and soft as a rose petal (Your pic HAS been posted)

Bob

 

[chuck010342]

Yes there is absolute truth. Whether or not you want to belive it is up to you

 

[Master Vigil]

And I'm guessing you know this absolute truth chuck? Somehow you as a finite imperfect being don't seem to hold any weight in that department, in my opinion.

 

[Pah]

Yes there is absolute truth. Whether or not you want to belive it is up to you

Mandating or implying belief as requisite for absolute truth negates the "absoluteness" of it. Belief in absolute truth is a subjective process.

Bob

 

[cardero]

chuck010342 writes: Yes there is absolute truth. Whether or not you want to belive it is up to you

TRUTH is ABSOLUTE! If there is only one thing YOU REMEMBER about TRUTH, REMEMBER that it is ABSOLUTE.

TRUTH can't BE tampered with. It is what it is and what it exemplifies. TRUTH is just. TRUTH is CORRECT. There is not much you do with TRUTH except accept it. It is that reliable.

TRUTH is NOW. To K(NOW) TRUTH is to K(NOW) it in the NOW. TRUTH is the only thing your soul K(NOW)s and UNDERSTANDS. It will refute any other input because the soul represents TRUTH. It exists with TRUTH in REMEMBRANCE.

TRUTH exists without YOU and does not rely on YOU to acknowledge, follow, or practice it. You can live without TRUTH, but that is your choice.

Hello It’s Me: An Interview With GOD

Chapter: Truth, Love and Understanding Page:130

Eerie

 

[Pah]

TRUTH is ABSOLUTE! If there is only one thing YOU REMEMBER about TRUTH, REMEMBER that it is ABSOLUTE.

Eerie

Truth is one of those concepts that mean many different things to many different people. "Absolute" is another having many that do not accept that concept. I am one that recognizes truth as something more than fact and I hold to a universal absolute as indeed being subjective rather than fact.

Bob

 

[Master Vigil]

I believe the only two absolutes are the Tao and change.