Is there a Migrant crisis

[YmirGF]

We're talking about the U.S. in the OP, are we not?

You referenced the southern border of the U.S., did you not?

It never belonged to them, Anna. It belonged to their ancestors.

 

[Friend of Mara]

Omg! Your definitely lost in dreamland.

Read the OP. Its whats stated. Or do you just disagree with the standing law of the United States of America? Or is it something else you disagree with?

 

[anna.]

It never belonged to them, Anna. It belonged to their ancestors.

First, you can agree I was replying to your post about our southern borders, therefore it should've made "a lick of sense," in that context.
Second, you could say the same thing about our current, relatively recent ownership of the Mexican territory that prior to their rule, belonged to the the indigenous peoples, so that argument doesn't really work, since in that case, our country's ancestors weren't European.

 

[Stevicus]

Is there a migrant crisis? New York City says yes.

Adams Weirdly Says Migrant Crisis Will ‘Destroy New York City​

"Let me tell you something, New Yorkers. Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an ending to. I don’t see an ending to this. This issue will destroy New York City,” Adams said. He warned that “we have a $12 billion deficit that we’re going to have to cut. Every service in this city is going to be impacted.”

Adams Weirdly Says Migrant Crisis Will ‘Destroy New York City’

During a town hall meeting on the Upper West Side Wednesday night, the mayor said he doesn’t “see an ending” to the problem.

nymag.com

It is a puzzler, that's for sure. Although, since it's a national issue, it has to be tackled nationally. Why saddle the whole problem on the sagging shoulders of Mr. Mayor of NYC?

 

[YmirGF]

First, you can agree I was replying to your post about our southern borders, therefore it should've made "a lick of sense," in that context.
Second, you could say the same thing about our current, relatively recent ownership of the Mexican territory that prior to their rule, belonged to the the indigenous peoples, so that argument doesn't really work, since in that case, our country's ancestors weren't European.

Oh, woop.

 

[Firenze]

My apologies. I keep forgetting that the sea of people flooding across the US southern border are not doing so illegally.

Besides, you are conflating things for your own effect. I never mentioned immigrants, as immigrants are, by default, legal and have gone through proper channels. The term, for those in the slow lane, "illegal alien" was a pejorative term used to describe those who actively thwarted a countries' immigration policies. It was never intended as a nice term.

This term has given way, in recent years, to the warm and fuzzy term, migrant, even though the vast majority of "migrants" enter given countries by illegal means. My guess is that because there are so many lawbreakers that it isn't feasible to arrest them all and put them through the court system, hence give them a benign sounding name like "migrant". Sounds like a travelling work-person. Do they bring their own tools?

You must be apoplectic that the majority of those living here illegally on expired visas are those nasty Canadians - since it can’t possibly be just the brown people you worry about…

Canadians top the list of visitors overstaying visas (with infographics)

New CBP initiatives are accelerating the enforcement of visitors who overstay their visas,...

www.houstonchronicle.com

 

[Valjean]

Majority Mexican, but large and increasing numbers from Guatemala, Honduras, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Haiti.

Something to consider: Why are these people emmigrating to the U.S?

[Hint: It has something to do with U.S. foreign policy].

 

[anna.]

Oh, woop.

Eloquent!

 

[Quintessence]

When you have a human overpopulation crisis - especially when combined with environmental crises - you have get a human migration crisis. The two kind of go hand in hand. Organisms live where the habitat is suitable for their flourishing and leave (if able) when it isn't.

 

[Revoltingest]

@YmirGF, just now. But I have found it fairly common.

Have a post of @YmirGF's to quote
(showing that all immigrants are illegals)?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This term has given way, in recent years, to the warm and fuzzy term, migrant

Yeah, no. That's been a general term for a long time now, and refers ti general human movements and especially historically isn't concerned with legalities or other issues. People where here, then they moved here.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

My apologies. I keep forgetting that the sea of people flooding across the US southern border are not doing so illegally.

Your kind up north too are illegal boarder jumpers.

 

[YmirGF]

Yeah, no. That's been a general term for a long time now, and refers ti general human movements and especially historically isn't concerned with legalities or other issues. People where here, then they moved here.

I'm not sure why you, or anyone, would feel a need to explain something so bloody obvious.

Your kind up north too are illegal boarder jumpers.

Alrighty.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'm not sure why you, or anyone, would feel a need to explain something so bloody obvious.

Your erroneous claim of it recently coming into use.

Alrighty.

Lot's of people overlook it and don't notice because your accents aren't radically different from most of ours and your skin is mostly white, but it still happens quite a bit, to the point that's its a mixture of bias, partisan politics and racist to focus on the Southern boarder. Amd I don't see any other factors due to the extreme rarity thatthe Northern boarder jumpers are acknowledged, and theres no talks of building a wall or sending the military to N Dakota or Wisconsin.

 

[Shaul]

I keep remembering that they're traveling across country that used to belong to them.

That is an incorrect statement. The vast majority of southern border crossers since 2021 have come from "Northern Triangle" and other non-Mexican countries whose inhabitants never ever owned any part of the United States.

 

[PureX]

The problem in New York is not the influx of people looking for a better life. The probem is that New York has nowhere for them to live. It's the same problem that every big city in the country has, and cities in a lot of other countries, have, too. As the rich get richer they skew the cost of everything further and further toward the wealthy. Soon the less wealthy can no longer afford to live in them. And this is very bad for cities because they need to have a wide range of economic participation for them to function.

 

[Shaul]

Mayor Adams is just trying to get more $$$. The rest is political theater.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I love how illegal aliens have become migrants.

With regard to the OP, I think New York is getting a taste of its asinine policy of being a so-called "sanctuary city". Another well-thought-out policy position. *rolls eyes*

You should have read the article before writing a post that paints you as a racist. Now you may not be one, but when one rushes to judgment one can give a false impression in that direction.

For one thing, these are not illegal aliens. They are going through the system. Illegal aliens try to avoid the system because they know that they are here illegally. These are asylum seekers and they would apparently like to be working:

'In recent weeks, he has pushed for additional assistance from both the state and federal government, calling on President Joe Biden to expedite work authorizations for migrants to alleviate pressure on the city shelter system. Back in April, Adams notably said during a press conference, “The president and the White House have failed this city.” '

Illegal aliens are here to work at jobs that pay less than is legal, but is better than the pay that they get at home. Many illegal aliens are recruited by US businesses that need more laborers. These migrants that are seeking asylum would actually become "illegal aliens" if they did take on jobs. The city wants them to have permissions to have jobs so that they can work here and not be a strain on city services.

Now, could the Biden administration have done better? Probably, but then there would be claims from people on the right of giving away "are jerbs!!".

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't think the majority of them are Mexican, mostly they are coming through Mexico, but they are starting from South America.

There are not too many from South America. Central America yes. South America begins at Colombia and goes south from there. Central America is part of North America. They are the countries north of Colombia and south of Mexico.

 

[Friend of Mara]

You should have read the article before writing a post that paints you as a racist. Now you may not be one, but when one rushes to judgment one can give a false impression in that direction.

For one thing, these are not illegal aliens. They are going through the system. Illegal aliens try to avoid the system because they know that they are here illegally. These are asylum seekers and they would apparently like to be working:

'In recent weeks, he has pushed for additional assistance from both the state and federal government, calling on President Joe Biden to expedite work authorizations for migrants to alleviate pressure on the city shelter system. Back in April, Adams notably said during a press conference, “The president and the White House have failed this city.” '

Illegal aliens are here to work at jobs that pay less than is legal, but is better than the pay that they get at home. Many illegal aliens are recruited by US businesses that need more laborers. These migrants that are seeking asylum would actually become "illegal aliens" if they did take on jobs. The city wants them to have permissions to have jobs so that they can work here and not be a strain on city services.

Now, could the Biden administration have done better? Probably, but then there would be claims from people on the right of giving away "are jerbs!!".

I tried pointing it out earlier but all I got was laugh reacts. So I assume he thinks south of the boarder means illegal. If he actually wants to correct me he can at any time but until then its what I'll assume.