Is There Anyway To Prevent WW3?

[Tabu]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

Our (BK) understanding is that the final destruction is inevitable because after the final corruption God comes to purify all souls , and the final destruction is through which nature and elements get renewed and Messianic age or The Golden age is restored , which is the age of initial purity and perfection .
Neither the night nor the day is forever they have to repeat in cycles. Similarly the Human cycle is repetitive and God has the complete knowledge of this cycle .
He is Abhogta, Asochta , i.e who doesn't experience , and doesn't need to think or contemplate , since His knowledge is complete and perfect.
When I realized after studying the BK knowledge that some of my beliefs and values were the cause of my sorrow and degradation of my soul I made the effort to change them and empower my soul.

 

[Twilight Hue]

With the advent of technology, wars are notably more "surgical" and precise than masssive brute force employed in the old days.

Ww3 if it could be defined as war in a conventional sense, would likely be sporadic and incremental played out over long periods of time as we are seeing now.

 

[savagewind]

If it is really prophesied by God, it would be stupid to stop it.

It would be you working against God and that won't work.

If it is true that God said the things people say God said, and if it was possible
to prevent it, you would be making God out a liar.

I do not doubt the words mean something that was/is/will happen.
It might do you all some good to figure it out.

 

[savagewind]

WW3 isn't going to happen because of some goat-herder from antiquity's heat stroke induced hallucination. But it may very well happen because people with serious authority and power believe it will and thus attempt to hasten it along.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, and those of us who don't treat said goat-herder's words as divine foresight are going to end up just as screwed over as those responsible.

Thank you! FINALLY, I can see that someone gets it! Though I don't agree with you that the words do not mean anything.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

I doubt there will be a WW3, much less a "rapture" that "saves" a select few privileged souls. But if people choose to think that highly of themselves, go ahead, and welcome to Satanism.

I fail to see how any of the above relates to Satanism in any of it's forms.

 

[Satans_Serrated_Edge]

Moses cursed Israel they'd be sent out among the nations for turning against their Lord, prophets continued that, and many specifications have already happened...

Yeshua warned that the world will be deceived by those claiming to be him using the term 'I Am' (Ego I-mee), in the gospel of John it repeatedly uses 'I am' statements symbolically to portray him as claiming himself as God, when he didn't speak this way in the Synoptic Gospels.

• 2nd temple destruction as specified (the 30 pieces of silver into the potters field in the house of Israel, was given to Judas (Zechariah 11)).
• Diaspora, and Jewish persecution throughout the Nations.
• Returning to the Land, yet it being a burdensome stone to the Nations.
• The world being deceived by Christianity (Paul, John, and Simon the stone (petros)).

Could show all the prophetic verses... In other religious texts can show prophecies about the Adharmic behavior, and removal of certain understanding; yet it isn't as item specific as the Biblical accounts, like depending how you look at things within it, it can show history unfolding before it happened.

If the Bible is largely fiction(which, unless you believe in talking snakes and transmutation, among other things...) then it makes sense that the latter half could confirm the prior.

How about prophecies that are made within the Bible and confirmed by less obviously agenda driven sources?(ie not the Bible)

 

[Onyx]

I fail to see how any of the above relates to Satanism in any of it's forms.

It was a joke.

 

[sovietchild]

If Russia goes to war with NATO, Europe can be a rebound for millions of Africans and millions of middle eastern people. As for Israel, they sit in a very dangerous place. If WW3 goes off, Israel could be one of the first nations to go down. Rockets not only will fly into Europe but also into Israel.

 

[Stevicus]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

I don't really believe in prophecies, although I suppose it's possible that we, as humans, could still destroy ourselves. We certainly have the firepower to do so. Or, we could pollute and destroy the environment as to make things virtually uninhabitable, although some forms of life may survive, if not humans.

If there is a God, considering the vastness of the entire universe and all the other galaxies, stars, planets, and potential life forms, I'm not sure why He would be so interested in Earth one way or the other. If He destroys us, it may not mean any more to Him than a human swatting an annoying insect.

Some people talk about prophecy as if it's a done deal. There have been those who even come up with an exact date and time for the end of the world - and every single one of them up until now has been wrong.

Now, if God wants to destroy humans because all or most of us are "sinful" or whatever, then I guess that's His prerogative. Of course, I think He pretty much set us up for failure, and if He's guiding events in order to fulfill His own prophecy, then I guess we're screwed.

 

[wizanda]

If the Bible is largely fiction

The start is a metaphor, then there is loads of history that we're unsure of; the prophets have foretold things that have happened within history as well.

Not that we can prove it historically accurate; yet +75% of the Bible is historical events, letters, ideas, people, that are said to have taken place.

How about prophecies that are made within the Bible and confirmed by less obviously agenda driven sources?(ie not the Bible)

Unfortunately not sure can answer the question of stuff prophesied within the Bible, that isn't interrelated with things in the Bible, as that is the whole concept the book is one giant historical metaphor.

 

[Kapalika]

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

I'm pretty sure that at least Hinduism and Buddhism don't believe that anyone will be "removed from reality" in a golden age. That would be paramount to saying that not everyone attains Moksha/Nirvana. That there is no eternal hell is the actual theological position of those groups.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I don't really believe in prophecies, although I suppose it's possible that we, as humans, could still destroy ourselves. We certainly have the firepower to do so. Or, we could pollute and destroy the environment as to make things virtually uninhabitable, although some forms of life may survive, if not humans.
If there is a God, considering the vastness of the entire universe and all the other galaxies, stars, planets, and potential life forms, I'm not sure why He would be so interested in Earth one way or the other. If He destroys us, it may not mean any more to Him than a human swatting an annoying insect.
Some people talk about prophecy as if it's a done deal. There have been those who even come up with an exact date and time for the end of the world - and every single one of them up until now has been wrong.
Now, if God wants to destroy humans because all or most of us are "sinful" or whatever, then I guess that's His prerogative. Of course, I think He pretty much set us up for failure, and if He's guiding events in order to fulfill His own prophecy, then I guess we're screwed.

God's prophecy to me is found at Revelation 22:2 that there will be 'healing' (Not destruction) for earth's nations.
To me there will be No WWIII, but Armageddon (Revelation 19:11) which brings an end to wickedness on Earth.
It is Not man's war, but heavenly Jesus with heavenly angelic armies according to Revelation.
So, it is Not destruction of Earth, or life on Earth, but that there will be destruction of wickedness on Earth.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth are only against the wicked according to Isaiah 11:3-4 and Revelation 19:14-16.
Then, as chapter 35 of Isaiah describes, the Earth will be a paradisical earth full of beauty and health.
Only the wicked will be destroyed forever according to Psalms 92:7, for the Earth will abide forever according to Ecclesiastes 1:4 B, and the humble meek people will inherit the Earth as Jesus' promised at Matthew 5:5.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I wish there were a way to prevent or reduce it.
When it is over we will have peace and well being, so how can we bring it about ?
Well a world government perhaps granting each family, shelter, food, education, occupation, and harmonious community ..

I find it interesting that you mention a ' world government ' because to me the government of Daniel 2:44 is a world government. That means then God's kingdom government will supply what is needed as mentioned at Micah 4:3-4 besides what is described for us at Isaiah 35.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I think it's a two-fold problem. First you have destruction of Earth by Christ and his Angels bringing the new world government. But you also have those who mis-interpret scripture and believe people will have this war and bring a world government. So the odds of avoiding it are bad. We might even be in WW3, wars and rumors of wars..They never really stopped having wars.

I can't find destruction of Earth, but destruction of wickedness on Earth as mentioned at Psalms 92:7
I say that because as Ecclesiastes 1:4 B says: the Earth abides forever.
That verse is in harmony with Psalms 76:9; Psalms 78:69 B; Psalms 93:1 B; Psalms 96:10; Psalms 104:5,35.
Please also see 1 Chronicles 16:30; Jeremiah 10:11-12, and Isaiah 45:18 that God created the Earth to be inhabited.

Destruction of Earth is Not necessary for Jesus' new world government (Daniel 2:44) but as it is written at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16 that it is the executional words from Jesus' mouth to destroy (Not Earth) but the wicked.
Proverbs 2:21-22 also tells us who remains on Earth.

At the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37 the figurative humble ' sheep'-like people can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth, right into calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over Earth begins. They come through the great tribulation of Revelation 7:14. They ' hide', so to speak, until that tribulation is over according to Isaiah 26:20.

 

[FunctionalAtheist]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

I'm dumbfounded that the fate of the human species at this time and age is debated in religious forums rather than humanistic forums. The problems that face us are real, factual, and at-hand. Take your scriptures and wipe your butt! Get off the pot! Look around! Humanity is a case of fleas on the back of dog that shall outlive us. When the earth is obliterated in the red giant, humans will be a long past blip!

 

[wizanda]

I'm pretty sure that at least Hinduism and Buddhism don't believe that anyone will be "removed from reality" in a golden age.

Thank you, was aware that many religious are contrary to their religious texts; within the Kalki Purana it records removing all Adharmic people's including certain religions...

2:28 The four exalted brahmanas offered their obeisances unto Lord Visnu, who had assumed the form of a human being. They very well understood that Lord Kalki had appeared to rid the earth of all those who had become degraded to the level of sinful demons.

Krishna says to Arjuna, "that even if he doesn't fight the people, they will still be removed at Mahapralaya."

BG 11.32-33: The Supreme Lord said: I am mighty Time, the source of destruction that comes forth to annihilate the worlds. Even without your participation, the warriors arrayed in the opposing army shall cease to exist. (33) Therefore, arise and attain honor! Conquer your foes and enjoy prosperous rulership. These warriors stand already slain by me, and you will only be an instrument of my work, O expert archer.

That would be paramount to saying that not everyone attains Moksha/Nirvana.

Bhagavad Gita 9.4
This entire cosmic manifestation is pervaded by me in my unmanifest form. All living beings dwell in me, but I do not dwell in them.
Bhagavad Gita 9.29
I am equally disposed to all living beings; I am neither inimical nor partial to anyone. But the devotees who worship me with love reside in me and I reside in them.

Therefore not everyone is divine, not everyone is part of Brahman; only those who practise all aspects of Yoga then have the divine reside in them...

Therefore according to most eschatologies, everyone who is not at that state isn't going to be in Satya Yuga.

That there is no eternal hell is the actual theological position of those groups.

Who is on about Hell; Yeshua was saying people were to be kicked out of reality (outer darkness Matthew 25:30) after Mahapralaya/Day of the Lord.

Hell and death isn't eternal Biblically either in Revelation, Hell is removed (Revelation 20:14), and put into the Lake of Fire.

There is much confusion, as the Lake of Fire is to remain, thus it says that is an Eternal fire for the devil, and his servants (Matthew 25:41).

 

[wizanda]

Revelation 22:2 that there will be 'healing' (Not destruction) for earth's nations.

That happens after all the destruction in Revelation, and the Mother of All Harlots is removed by force.

To me there will be No WWIII, but Armageddon

Revelation 16:14-16 says they're gathered in Meggido for that Great Battle; Meggido is just above Jerusalem, and is a literal battle to take place.

It is Not man's war, but heavenly Jesus with heavenly angelic armies according to Revelation.

Angels don't need to fight, all they need to do is speak, and people are removed from reality...

As it says out of the Lambs mouth the words cut like a sword, there isn't any need for angels to battle....Yet a battle takes place where all nations come against Jerusalem/Meggido.

Destruction of Earth is Not necessary for Jesus' new world government

That would be fine if everyone was going to accept him, and he could just start peacefully reiterating where everyone's religious understandings are in error.

Then, as chapter 35 of Isaiah describes, the Earth will be a paradisical earth full of beauty and health.

This is after removal of all ravenous beings, a new earth, and paradise where there is no longer death; therefore the old reality needs to be removed first.

that it is the executional words from Jesus' mouth to destroy (Not Earth) but the wicked.

Agreed the wicked are to be removed by the word, and earth is to be reformed after without death (Revelation 21:1).

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

Religion is an inevitable part of human evolution, science is its child still trying to create rules, and understanding to define the reality around us.

Thus someone will repeat the cycle, and new religions will establish as cultures divide.

I see where I confused you, and I apologize. What I actually meant by the comment about children being born with ideas more like mine than yours was more to highlight that, regardless what God does with an aim to "purify" the population, or align philosophies, or create a peaceful atmosphere on the Earth... basically, how can you believe that the world will be "better" after some massive, God-driven shake-up when there will still be new heathens being born? New people to make all these "mistakes" that the religious seem to believe themselves absolved from?

 

[YAW7911]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

I've always wondered if it's possible to take on legions of spirits with mortal preparation. On the other hand since I am fighting some deity who only claimed to be the creator there is a good chance of winning, say more than 1%. Of course that isn't to say another golden age without war and other negativity is undesirable.

 

[rharris001]

Respectfully, I say this: Why would any informed follower of Christ want to know if there is anyway to avoid WW3? The fact is: The entire world is targeted for termination. The world's destruction MUST occur before the "coming down" to the earth of God's Kingdom. (Read Dan 2:44 and Matthew 6:9, 10). That God's Kingdom will "come down" to the earth confirms what Jesus taught at John 3:13: "No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven — the Son of Man." In other words, there is no need for anyone to "go up" into heaven since God's Kingdom will "come down" to the earth and reside forever upon it. Gone forever are the kingdoms of men. What Jesus stated at John 3:13 is profound and many still do not get it. He is telling his followers that no human will ever ascend to heaven at death. The only man that will ascend into heaven will be himself. Why? Because that is where he came from. He "became" a man born of Mary. He was not created a man in heaven when he was sent. Upon his ascension back into heaven, Christ, was transformed back into the form he had when he was with his Father and angelic brothers in heaven.

Jesus NEVER spoke of a WW3 - men, the nations and the worlds religions do this. Jesus spoke of the final and everlasting destruction of an entire world in which his kingdom was no part of.

In fact, at Matthew 4:8-9 when Satan offered Jesus all of the kingdoms of the world it should be noted here that Jesus never denied that the kingdoms of the world were not Satan's to offer him. Jesus knew that Satan was (and still is) the invisible god (ruler) of this world. (Do not confuse earth and world. The earth remains forever. Worlds upon the earth come and go. Like the world of Noah's Day or the world of Sodom and Gomorrah which are no longer in existence. See Eccl 1:4).

According to "The Revelation By Jesus Christ that GOD GAVE HIM" (what many refer to as The Book of Revelation), much has to occur before God's Kingdom comes down to the earth: In order these are:

1. The destruction of this world. All nations destroyed. No USA. No China. No Russia. ALL nations are gone. All of mankind will and MUST die. Even Christs followers. They are not greater than their master. If Christ suffered and died, so must we.
2. Unseen by any human, the sign in heaven (that is seen by those who reside in heaven), the coronation of Christ as King over the earth.
3. Christs "indefinite" Kingdom of 1000 years over the earth begins. He rules from the unseen place: Heaven.
4. Satan is Abyssed for 1000 years. The exact same duration of Christs kingdom over the earth. Satan will not be able to interfere with Christs administration over the earth.
5. As promised at John 5:28-29, Christ resurrects ALL of mankind from the dead. (Notice Jesus said ALL will be resurrected). The first to die will be resurrected first. The act of the resurrection is what Jesus meant by being born again: That is, born again (brought back to life) from the dead.
6. ALL of man will enter into Christs 1000 year kingdom. Billions resurrected will have never heard of the one who resurrected them, but they will learn during this time. They will know that they were dead. They will awaken from death in a different time period from the one in which they died. One can only imagine what will be going through their heads when the miracle of life is given back to them and they will come to know who it was who called them back from the the dead. Resurrected mankind will learn God's righteousness.
7. The earth is transformed into a paradise. This could take hundreds of years.
8. Mankind is restored perfection by Christ. This could take many hundreds of years. Christ continues to serve as intermediary between God and his subjects on earth.
9. Christs Kingdom ends. (Rev 20:6-7)
10. Christ no longer an intermediary between God and mankind. Just as Adam was not. Mankind will be perfect as Adam was.
11. Satan is released from his Abyssing. He sees one unified righteous society that fills the earth (Gog of Magog). The earth is a glorious beautiful paradise.
12. Satan sets out to mislead that righteous society. He will largely succeed. Satan's kingdom will offer peace and security too.
13. Satan sets up his Kingdom on the earth. It is at this time we see the beast that come up out of the sea, the false prophet (beast that comes up out of the earth), the image of the beast, the scarlet colored beast, the Great Tribulation and Armageddon (which is not WW3, but God's war against Satan's kingdom (The Beast) on earth in those future days. Satan's kingdom will oppose the coming down and establishment of God's kingdom on the earth. Satan will have misled the earths population to such an extent that they will believe that there is nothing that will be able to stand up against it and remove it. (Rev 13:4)
14. One nation against an other nation. One kingdom again another Kingdom is God's Kingdom at war against Satan's Kingdom. This is Armageddon. The last part of Armageddon is The Great Tribulation. Those who endure faithful through the Great Tribulation will be given a crown of life (everlasting life) on earth. (Matthew 10:21-22)
15. Satan and his kingdom destroyed. Death will be no more. (People will no longer die) (Rev 21:1-4)
16. God's kingdom comes down and resides forever on the earth.
17. Then God will say, "The evening and the morning is the SEVENTH DAY, it is finished.
18. Mankind fully restored to their Creator and from that point forward has an eternity and will inherit the earth. We cannot imagine what it will be like.

Followers of Christ should not care about what any religion says about this. God did not send his son to establish religion. Neither should we care about what a book man named "The Bible" has to say because God did not send us a book. He sent his Son to us and he is alive and still teaches his true followers via Holy Spirit as he promised he would. He alone is "The Word of God." No book by any name can share that title. It is God's command that we listen to the one that he sent. (Luke 9:35)

Both God and Christ are quoted in a scroll called "The Bible." But Christ alone is God's Word, not a book. Many venerate leather and paper (a book) rather than the person of Christ.