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Is there someone who practices astral projection?

Ana.J

Active Member
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I practice meditation which can have these types of experiences happen. But you have to be careful what you mean by astral projection. To me that is not the same thing as out of body experiences. I personally don't have those, while I certainly do "go places" in meditation.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
I practice meditation which can have these types of experiences happen. But you have to be careful what you mean by astral projection. To me that is not the same thing as out of body experiences. I personally don't have those, while I certainly do "go places" in meditation.

I think I meant the our of the body experiences since for me it is hard to differentiate between imagination and 'seeing' things.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.

My wife (don't ask). However, it's not something she 'practices', it just comes natural (her nephew also does this). Like @Windwalker said it's not the same as OBE's (which she also has experience) and I'm not sure if this ability is a blessing or a curse. Be very careful.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.
I heartily reject the concept of so-called "astral projection" due to the baggage the term has accrued. I'm good with out-of-body explorations, of which, I've had way too many to get into here. I am also an avid "lucid" dreamer and have many decades under my belt with such endeavors.

How do you start to do these things?
You just did.

Entertaining the possibility that such activities are possible is the first step. The easiest route is through dreams. Work on finding your hands (in a dream). If you think about it, you almost never see your hands in a dream. Give yourself this suggestion as you are falling asleep. "When I see my hands I will become fully aware within my dream." Try this for a period no longer than two weeks. If nothing happens during that time drop it. Wait a month or two then try it again.
 
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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm not a fan of the term "astral projection." It's a modern term used to describe something that's been done in traditional cultures for a very long time, and as @YmirGF notes, it has accumulated all sorts of baggage and nonsense along the way. Indigenous cultures usually had persons who specialized in working with the otherworlds. Each culture regards the otherworlds somewhat differently, but the simplest way to think of them is that they are the dimensions of reality that our modern culture likes to deny the existence of by relegating them to "oh, that's just your imagination" or "oh, that's just fiction." Jouneywork is a more generalized term for working with the otherworlds, and something that is a major part of my path. I don't talk about it much on here, because the prevailing narratives told by the overculture I live in are very intolerant of such work.

If you want to know how to start, you have to start with unlearning. There are a lot of metaphysical assumptions that your overculture has brought to your table that are ill-suited for this type of work. Suspend expectations, resist the urge to label things immediately. Question what your culture has taught you about what reality is in particular. Beyond that, foundational skills are helpful. Were I to teach someone journeywork, I would start them with learning meditation and energy work first. Meditation will train you to alter your state of consciousness at will - something that is vital to doing journeys into the otherworlds - while energy work helps make you sensitive to a broader spectrum of experiences you might encounter there. Like anything, learning these things requires time and investment.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
I don't think I've ever done astral projection, but lucid dreaming is just a skill. No supernatural stuff required. You can "train" for it by daydreaming about a subject a lot before going to bed. Eventually, your brain will go "AHA! THIS IS BS!" and then you can train to deal with said subject.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'm not a fan of the term "astral projection." It's a modern term used to describe something that's been done in traditional cultures for a very long time, and as @YmirGF notes, it has accumulated all sorts of baggage and nonsense along the way. Indigenous cultures usually had persons who specialized in working with the otherworlds. Each culture regards the otherworlds somewhat differently, but the simplest way to think of them is that they are the dimensions of reality that our modern culture likes to deny the existence of by relegating them to "oh, that's just your imagination" or "oh, that's just fiction." Jouneywork is a more generalized term for working with the otherworlds, and something that is a major part of my path. I don't talk about it much on here, because the prevailing narratives told by the overculture I live in are very intolerant of such work.

If you want to know how to start, you have to start with unlearning. There are a lot of metaphysical assumptions that your overculture has brought to your table that are ill-suited for this type of work. Suspend expectations, resist the urge to label things immediately. Question what your culture has taught you about what reality is in particular. Beyond that, foundational skills are helpful. Were I to teach someone journeywork, I would start them with learning meditation and energy work first. Meditation will train you to alter your state of consciousness at will - something that is vital to doing journeys into the otherworlds - while energy work helps make you sensitive to a broader spectrum of experiences you might encounter there. Like anything, learning these things requires time and investment.
I agree with much you are saying and have the odd quibble here and there, as should be expected, but overall, good points. The thing is to not get too wrapped up into making it happen. This isn't something you can force and meditation is a great way to build focus.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I don't think I've ever done astral projection, but lucid dreaming is just a skill. No supernatural stuff required. You can "train" for it by daydreaming about a subject a lot before going to bed. Eventually, your brain will go "AHA! THIS IS BS!" and then you can train to deal with said subject.
On thing I point out to folks is that when you encounter something in a dream that is clearly impossible you should begin to realize, "I must be dreaming". If you can become aware of that in a dream, while staying within the dreamscape, interesting things can occur.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
My wife (don't ask). However, it's not something she 'practices', it just comes natural (her nephew also does this). Like @Windwalker said it's not the same as OBE's (which she also has experience) and I'm not sure if this ability is a blessing or a curse. Be very careful.

Thank you for your reply. But why do you think this can be a curse?
 

Ana.J

Active Member
I heartily reject the concept of so-called "astral projection" due to the baggage the term has accrued. I'm good with out-of-body explorations, of which, I've had way too many to get into here. I am also an avid "lucid" dreamer and have many decades under my belt with such endeavors.

How do you start to do these things?
You just did.

Entertaining the possibility that such activities are possible is the first step. The easiest route is through dreams. Work on finding your hands (in a dream). If you think about it, you almost never see your hands in a dream. Give yourself this suggestion as you are falling asleep. "When I see my hands I will become fully aware within my dream." Try this for a period no longer than two weeks. If nothing happens during that time drop it. Wait a month or two then try it again.

Thank you for the useful tips. I mostly do not remember my dreams, but if I see something that associates with an object or idea in my dream, it triggers some memories from my dream. You know, sometimes I have memories from my dream and they are so vivid that I cannot tell if it happened or not. How to make sure I will not mix the dream and reality in my memories? Is not that dangerous psychologically?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Thank you for the useful tips. I mostly do not remember my dreams, but if I see something that associates with an object or idea in my dream, it triggers some memories from my dream. You know, sometimes I have memories from my dream and they are so vivid that I cannot tell if it happened or not. How to make sure I will not mix the dream and reality in my memories? Is not that dangerous psychologically?
I have no difficulty differentiating what was a dream event and what was a physical event. If you are confused on this it may be a sign of some kind of psychological baggage that a counselor could help clear up.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Thank you for your reply. But why do you think this can be a curse?

I was wondering the same thing. What say you @BSM1

They have no control over this 'ability'. It is a random thing and not always pleasant. They also are receptive to 'soul energies' that have passed. These entities usually are trying to contact people that she happens to know. This is another random occurrence that seems to come with the territory. There are many nights that she can't sleep due to the 'chatter' that comes from God knows where. When she is 'contacted' by an entity to reassure a living acquaintance it usually is a highly emotional moment for her and the other person. Most of her 'contacts' (I'm using these terms for lack of a better description) are good but there have been a couple of 'dark' figures that makes me worry for her emotional safety. However, there have been amazing moments. Last week she and her nephew were visiting the gravesite of the nephews infant that died shortly after birth. The grave was in a section that was set aside for young children that had passed. A little girl tried to come through to her. This little girl had tried before but my wife was afraid to let her. Finally she let the little in. The little girl, Emily, let her know that she and the nephew's infant were playing. She also said that 'Leland' was playing, too. My nephew had never noticed before but the grave on one side of his baby had an 'Emily' buried and on the the other side was a 'Leland'. Having lived with the woman for over 45 years I have learned to take it all in stride. But to get back to your question, once you start crossing that line between realities you leave yourself vulnerable to experiences that you may not be able to control. Again, be very, very careful.
 

ENTP Logician

Advocate for Reason
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.

Astral Projection is not something can has been proven to exist.

Some people can lucid dream, for example my little brother can. But I am not sure if it is something you can learn.
 

Ana.J

Active Member
They have no control over this 'ability'. It is a random thing and not always pleasant. They also are receptive to 'soul energies' that have passed. These entities usually are trying to contact people that she happens to know. This is another random occurrence that seems to come with the territory. There are many nights that she can't sleep due to the 'chatter' that comes from God knows where. When she is 'contacted' by an entity to reassure a living acquaintance it usually is a highly emotional moment for her and the other person. Most of her 'contacts' (I'm using these terms for lack of a better description) are good but there have been a couple of 'dark' figures that makes me worry for her emotional safety. However, there have been amazing moments. Last week she and her nephew were visiting the gravesite of the nephews infant that died shortly after birth. The grave was in a section that was set aside for young children that had passed. A little girl tried to come through to her. This little girl had tried before but my wife was afraid to let her. Finally she let the little in. The little girl, Emily, let her know that she and the nephew's infant were playing. She also said that 'Leland' was playing, too. My nephew had never noticed before but the grave on one side of his baby had an 'Emily' buried and on the the other side was a 'Leland'. Having lived with the woman for over 45 years I have learned to take it all in stride. But to get back to your question, once you start crossing that line between realities you leave yourself vulnerable to experiences that you may not be able to control. Again, be very, very careful.

Wow....it seems to me that your wife sees spirits. Can this be called astral projection? Or did it happen when she was "dreaming"?
 

Jonathan Ainsley Bain

Logical Positivist
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.

There was a time when I had many such experiences, but have had only subtle experiences for about 10 years now.
I think intense spiritual experiences happen when one starts to move from a material to a spiritual mindset.
It was always while in pursuit of ethical purity, (and the highly emotional state which results from this)
that I ventured directly into an astral state.

I had the most vivid experience by deliberately staying conscious whilst falling asleep.
I was only in such an intense state of concerted concentration because I was fervently praying
to God to explain why it is that he could allow a certain evil person to get away with evil deeds.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Wow....it seems to me that your wife sees spirits. Can this be called astral projection? Or did it happen when she was "dreaming"?

No, her occurrences happen when she is wide awake. When she sleeps she has 'visited' other 'realities' (again, it's hard to find terms to really describe what she experiences. BTW, she also sees auras.) Her nephew tends to visit places more on this plane of awareness. These two are otherwise normal people. They don't read palms or dabble in the occult, they're just everyday people with special abilities.
 

lovesong

:D
Premium Member
Hello Guys,

Is there someone who practices astral projection? Or maybe lucid dreaming?

I am interested in the topic, but I do not now how to start..... :)

Thank you in advance for your help.
I'm not a huge fan of the term, although I use it sometimes out of convention. But yes, I practice it, what are you curious about? :)
 
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