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Is there such a thing as an addiction gene?

libre

In flight
Staff member
Premium Member
Many genes do increase the likelihood of addiction.

How can this be good?
Why would it be?
There are also genes that increase the likelihood of cancer and many other illnesses and disorders.
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Many genes do increase the likelihood of addiction.


Why would it be?
There are also genes that increase the likelihood of cancer and many other illnesses and disorders.
I don't know, maybe skill development or something to that effect ... Replacement therapy. People get great at things they can't seem to put down or quit.
 

JIMMY12345

Active Member
I've heard that addiction can be passed down to our descendants genetically. Is this true? How can this be good?
Good question.No
and Yes it is the combined concerted action of lots of genes that might manifest in addiction combined with trigger factors eg Did Biden or Trump win 2024 POTUS.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I've heard that addiction can be passed down to our descendants genetically. Is this true? How can this be good?

Perhaps not addiction itself, but a higher chance to develop it.

It has been remarked that the incidence of alcoholism is related to the ability to weather hangovers relactively well. That is probably inheritable to some extent.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
Perhaps not addiction itself, but a higher chance to develop it.

It has been remarked that the incidence of alcoholism is related to the ability to weather hangovers relactively well. That is probably inheritable to some extent.
I tend to think addiction is connected to sublimated sexual desire. For some it is also connected to sublimated hunger and thirst. Sexual desire can become very strong, more so in men, due to the male, daily, instead monthly cycle, of women. This is reflected in the observation that more men, than women, are drunks and addicts. Women like to eat pills.

Sublimation is where the object of desire; alcohol, uses the core or natural sexual dynamics, and attaches itself; learned behaviors, to become a subset. It may show up as genetic, but is more like a genetic branch to a main natures desire stem. Alcohol and sex is very common; night clubs.

Our body is mostly water. While alcohol; ethyl alcohol, can hydrogen bond with water, but alcohol is also reduced compared to water; has carbon-hydrogen as well. Although these two liquids are soluble in each other, alcohol does makes the body water more reduced; carbon effect.

What is called "wet brain" is caused by the constant alcohol in the blood and the slightly reduced body water, altering the equilibrium shapes and activity of neurons and the neurons branchings. This reduced blood can also impact muscles and may even impact the DNA; reduced potential on the DNA means methylation of the DNA. This packs the DNA making some genes less available; more linear behavior. Water is key to life and cells and alcohol can slightly alter the body water for many related reduction effects; gain body fat. Lowering of inhibitions is connected to the los of ego will power; loss of willful inhibition and loss of balance; cerebellum reduction as DNA packs due to methylation.


I do an annual routine, where I do not drink any alcohol from New Years to the middle of May; first summer like weather in the NE USA. Then I will drink from May to New Years. I so this, in part, to practice will power. But it also allows my older body to rest and recuperate; clean out the water-alcohol affect from my blood, body and brain. This cycle allows for excess alcohol consumption in the summer and the fall to early winter holidays and none in the winter and early spring. I can see, from the inside the differences in my body for each part of the cycle. After quitting, my mind gradually becomes clear, and I lose body fat that the alcohol added; quitting is the oxidation cycle. My balance and muscle vigor improves. I gain more testosterone and less estrogen; less emotional and softness.

I have been doing this cycle for about 8 years. Quitting is easy for me. Lately starting up drinking, again, is sometimes harder. Quitting is like body surfing, where I need to catch the right wave, just right, and it will bring you all the way into shore; May. If I get it wrong, I will not be able to move; stuck at step one. If I catch the right wave, and hit it right, I will have zero side effects; physical, emotional or psychological. All I need to do is drink zero calorie flavored water.

Often when it is time to quit; Jan 2, I miss the first few waves and will not start the first day. The first perfect wave may appears Jan 6-10 and I catch it perfectly. I could never understand why so many people need so much help and drugs to quit. They may not body know how to body surf; time healing just right. But then again, I am not quitting, forever, but until the May 10-21 range. I think the shorter time and the annual renewal cycle of putting, which makes me feel so much better, makes it easier to find the right wave, after the Holiday binge.

I am almost a few months into this years cycle and my writing is getting better with renewed creativity. My body has lost almost 20 pounds of alcohol and food fat. My muscle strength and stamina are much better even for an older man of 67. I got 2 months to go, to become even better, and then it will be the time for the reduction cycle; summer fun with a less disciplined life style. This is scrambling and packing cycle more on the reduced side of the brain and body. Then come Jan, I will become more oxidized; acetylation of the DNA to open packed DNA that was on the back burner. You can do science studies on your own body from inside where consciousness can see.
 

Eddi

Christianity, Taoism, and Humanism
Premium Member
I've heard that addiction can be passed down to our descendants genetically
Maybe people get it from the upbringing/socialisation their parents give to them rather than inheriting the characteristics from their parents genetically?
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Maybe people get it from the upbringing/socialisation their parents give to them rather than inheriting the characteristics from their parents genetically?
Environmental factors - I was thinking they could be useful. The gene specifically, given we find something worthy enough to replace the typical addictive behaviors we find so undesirable. "Don't train until you get it right. Train until you can't get it wrong." This type of addictive behavior transfer could prove useful.

In the meantime, our drug rehabilitation centers are on stand-by waiting for further input of possible future need with a population of primed residents with a personality type able to accommodate.
 
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