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Is "Uncle Tom" a Racist Term?

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I'm curious about this. Would it be racist to call someone an "Uncle Tom"?

If so, what makes it racist?

If not, why is it not racist?

If you believe it is generally racist to call someone an "Uncle Tom", do you also believe there circumstances under which it would not be racist for someone to call someone else an "Uncle Tom"?

EDIT: Uncle Tom is a term sometimes used to denote a Black man who will do anything to stay in good terms with "the White man", including betray other Blacks. See the Urban Dictionary entry here.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It is a derogatory term specifically to insult a black man because of his race, & how he is getting out of line.
(This is essentially the same answer I gave in the other thread.)
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Uh... if I have an uncle named Tom, I'll call him uncle Tom??? Otherwise, why would I say that? I don't understand.

And I think that it's good that I don't. Because the only thing that would make it racist is people claiming that it is. I have never heard of this nonsense, and am going to pretend that I never did.
 

dawny0826

Mother Heathen
Uh... if I have an uncle named Tom, I'll call him uncle Tom??? Otherwise, why would I say that? I don't understand.

And I think that it's good that I don't. Because the only thing that would make it racist is people claiming that it is. I have never heard of this nonsense, and am going to pretend that I never did.

First time I've heard of it, myself.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
No, not really. An Uncle Tom is anyone who is a part of an oppressed or otherwise disadvantaged minority but who nevertheless plays kiss *** to the privileged social group like a lapdog. It's viewed as betrayal.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Uh... if I have an uncle named Tom, I'll call him uncle Tom??? Otherwise, why would I say that? I don't understand.

And I think that it's good that I don't. Because the only thing that would make it racist is people claiming that it is. I have never heard of this nonsense, and am going to pretend that I never did.

First time I've heard of it, myself.

For definitions of the term, see here.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I think the person who it's used on, or against, should be the judge. I know I wouldn't use it, because I know its meaning, but often people don't know about racial slurs, because of age, geography, etc.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
All I'm getting out of this is that no one reads Uncle Tom's Cabin anymore. Also possibly The King and I has fallen out of fashion.

The term "Uncle Tom" comes from the movie, not the book. The movie totally changed Uncle Tom's character.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
The term "Uncle Tom" comes from the movie, not the book. The movie totally changed Uncle Tom's character.

Yeah I recall that, it's more like the "never heard the term" thing - reading the book would make you likely to be culturally familiar with the term.

But I could be making that up.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I think the person who it's used on, or against, should be the judge. I know I wouldn't use it, because I know its meaning, but often people don't know about racial slurs, because of age, geography, etc.

I agree. It's context that gives it racist meaning.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It's from an old book.

Older than you.

Actually, in the book, "Uncle Tom's Cabin", Uncle Tom is a pretty noble character. The movie re-cast him as a sellout, and that's from where the derogatory term comes.
 
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