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Is your body an object?
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
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Am I my body?
I know what you're doing, dude. I understand that you're trying to get where we're coming from when we say "objectification is bad".
It's bad because it reduces a person to nothing more than their body, and implies that they have absolutely no worth as a person.
I know what you're doing, dude. I understand that you're trying to get where we're coming from when we say "objectification is bad".
It's bad because it reduces a person to nothing more than their body, and implies that they have absolutely no worth as a person.
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Wherenextcolumbus
Well-Known Member
It is both no my body is part of me and no I am part of my body.
I want an option for "yes, and it doesn't belong to me" (except as granted by human social constructs; ultimately nothing "belongs" or is owned by anything in this universe).
Where's the option to express my dismay at how my object has decayed so much over the last half century?
I used to have the body of a Greek god! Now I've got the body of a god darned Greek!
I used to have the body of a Greek god! Now I've got the body of a god darned Greek!
Koldo
Outstanding Member
What does it mean to have worth as a person?
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chinu
And who is the user ?
I mean it in the Kantian sense: humans have worth simply by virtue of being human.
What it means from a practical standpoint is that all humans are, by default, deserving of certain respectful courtesies, one of which is not treating an individual as nothing more than a toy, to be used and discarded.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Could a human be objetified and at the same time be treated respectfully?
Depends on what it is you're respecting.
By default, no, since objectification reduces a person to their bodies, leaving nothing else, basically leaving the objectified person in a state as having the same worth as a love-doll.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
So it is not as simple as that....
Either way, is it necessary to respect someone to treat her/him respectfully?
Ideally, yes, but obviously sometimes we end up in situations where we have no choice but to extend courtesies to people we don't respect at all.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Interesting.
Would it be accurate to say that objectification of service providers is particularly common and widespread on western societies?
Well, it is. If you're respecting the person, you're not objectifying him/her. If you're respecting their actions, deeds, thoughts, words, or any property about them, you're not respecting them.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
What does it mean to respect a person?
If you have such a disconnect between beliefs and actions that you can do that, then it's possible. It's never necessary.