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ISIS is completely overrated

serp777

Well-Known Member
People in the United States are so concerned about ISIS when so many more people die from starvation, preventable diseases, homelessness, car crashes, etc. Millions of people are dying from these things which are barely talked about, and yet ISIS seems to be everyone's biggest concern. I don't get why people are so worried about peanuts--a few hundred dead is nothing compared to the number of people who die from heart disease or cancer every hour. if we invested as much money in medical research as we do in military defense and waging war we'd probably have something close to a universal cancer cure and drugs to cure heart disease. Or we'd solve the problem of homelessness in the United States. Or we'd save everyone from starvation overseas.

Basically ISIS is a non issue compared to the other problems. When ISIS starts killing tens of thousands every day then come back to me.

ISIS is so successful because they have convinced everyone that they are much more important than they really are.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
People in the United States are so concerned about ISIS when so many more people die from starvation, preventable diseases, homelessness, car crashes, etc. Millions of people are dying from these things which are barely talked about, and yet ISIS seems to be everyone's biggest concern. I don't get why people are so worried about peanuts--a few hundred dead is nothing compared to the number of people who die from heart disease or cancer every hour. if we invested as much money in medical research as we do in military defense and waging war we'd probably have something close to a universal cancer cure and drugs to cure heart disease. Or we'd solve the problem of homelessness in the United States. Or we'd save everyone from starvation overseas.

Basically ISIS is a non issue compared to the other problems. When ISIS starts killing tens of thousands every day then come back to me.

ISIS is so successful because they have convinced everyone that they are much more important than they really are.

You're right. Naivety, ignorance, and denial will always pose a greater threat than enemies we can actually face.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
There is something to what you say, but on the other hand ideologies can grow pretty fast, and ISIS' is certainly one worth containing.
The only reason its growing is because we give it so much attention. That's why the terrorism works--countries overreact to the deaths of a few hundred people and then they invade the middle east or whatever which causes a huge surge in the number of supporters who see the invasion as an afront. If we didn't react to ISIS except in the sense that we increased security, then they wouldn't be half as powerful. The entire reason for ISIS's existence is an overreaction by the United States when it attacked Iraq because of alleged involvement with al qeada.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
You're right. Naivety, ignorance, and denial will always pose a greater threat than enemies we can actually face.

Indeed. And i bet if the United States focused on developing medicine and preventing world hunger instead of acting as the world police, we wouldn't have any terrorists in the first place.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
ISIS is a real enough concern. Skewed as its perception and the reaction to its existence may be, attempting to ignore it is not a good choice.
 

Covellite

Active Member
ISIS is a real enough concern. Skewed as its perception and the reaction to its existence may be, attempting to ignore it is not a good choice.
ISIS is dangerous, no question. I live in Europe and we already have refugee crisis and terrorist attack with fatal result ( I'm afraid more to come). Refugee crisis and "red alert" makes European government unstable. More radicalism could be expected. Common sense loose the race. Serp777 has a very good point.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
When ISIS starts killing tens of thousands every day then come back to me.

ISIS is so successful because they have convinced everyone that they are much more important than they really are.
It would appear that inanity has new and troubling meaning. One can only hope that you are never in a position of power and influence.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
You're really comparing illnesses and accidents to a group of genocidal lunatics committing crimes against humanity? o_O

yeah because if we spent half the effort reducing deaths in those areas as we do stopping terrorists then we would save hudnreds of thousands of more lives. Its very basic logic. Its a few hundred deaths a year vs millions. The emphasis on focus should be else where, and the focus and attention is what gives isis its power in the first place. Furthermore chances are if we stopped policing the world and focused instead on benefiting humanity then there wouldn't be nearly as many terrorists.
 
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serp777

Well-Known Member
It would appear that inanity has new and troubling meaning. One can only hope that you are never in a position of power and influence.
it would appear that ignorance and naivety still have the same meaning though. One can only hope you don't vote.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
ISIS is a real enough concern. Skewed as its perception and the reaction to its existence may be, attempting to ignore it is not a good choice.
Well not ignore necessarily just focus on more prominent issues that cause significantly more deaths and loss of quality of life than isis could ever dream of.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
ISIS did not even exist a couple of years ago. Neglecting it now sounds like a very bad idea to me.

Of course, attempting to deal with it militarily sounds even worse.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
ISIS did not even exist a couple of years ago. Neglecting it now sounds like a very bad idea to me.

Of course, attempting to deal with it militarily sounds even worse.
its not really our problem. Iran, turkey, and assad would crush them if we let them have free reign in regards to ISIS. The involvement of the United States simply attracts more terrorists. They want us to get involved because that makes the best recruitment message. ISIS wants the United States to send soliders, troops, and spend money--the best way to hurt us is to bring us to the middle east and fight on ISIS's terms. And foreign influence is always used to justify terrorism.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It became the USA problem when they invaded Iraq and thereby created ISIS.

American involvement attracts more terrorists because it is military in nature.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
People in the United States are so concerned about ISIS when so many more people die from starvation, preventable diseases, homelessness, car crashes, etc. Millions of people are dying from these things which are barely talked about, and yet ISIS seems to be everyone's biggest concern. I don't get why people are so worried about peanuts--a few hundred dead is nothing compared to the number of people who die from heart disease or cancer every hour. if we invested as much money in medical research as we do in military defense and waging war we'd probably have something close to a universal cancer cure and drugs to cure heart disease. Or we'd solve the problem of homelessness in the United States. Or we'd save everyone from starvation overseas.
Other problems exist therefore we shouldn't worry about this other one?

I didn't know Ostriches could use computers. That's awesome!
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
it would appear that ignorance and naivety still have the same meaning though. One can only hope you don't vote.
I am many things but naive and ignorant are not among them. And, for the record, I make a point of voting every chance I get... and have done so for decades.

So, let me get this straight, you don't think the 10's of billions of dollars being spent on the Syrian refugee crisis is a reason to go after the cause? Wait till that cause is killing 10's of thousands a day? Seriously?

I've heard pretty superficial thinking before, but this really does take the cake. Congratulations!
Billions of Thetans can't wait any more for there' s cup of tea.
I'm trying to parse a meaning from this but I'm not getting anything... was there a point to this comment?

I didn't know Ostriches could use computers. That's awesome!
Who knew, eh?

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Covellite

Active Member
-Is your hand OK?
-Yes
-Are you blind?
-No
-It' esencial to press play at exact the same time. Now, dance with me.
 
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