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Isnt it weird how Abrahamic religions has always alligned with alligned with Autocratic culture

LarsNorway

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If you look at history of man. Roman empire and other civilizations. Autocratic regimes has always been a huge deal then. And Abrahamic religions has often been subpar to that. Interms of authority and government.

The west now is more what one can call Liberal Democracy.
Though arguably its due to tyranny at the time in France, because of French revolution that spread through the western world to what we have today.
If you however look at countries like China, their history seem to be (in communist modernized concept) that anything trying to split China up is outside interference. Despite interms of ideals that not having freedom of press or speech is a form of oppression

So i guess i do wonder whether autocracy is a evolutionary form, til someone achieves their goal. And then its "you know in modern age is where Liberal Democracy is at its peak". Or whether autocrats are simply too evil? And just believes humans are too stupid so you need leader worship and so forth, the parades.

Rather than a government ruled by the people.

I guess its weird seeing how Abrahamic religions has always had a thing for autocratic regime mentality, even Catholic Church has reformed since then due to influence of Liberal Democracy. As compared to other places where other countries is more tuned to autocratic government.

Nationalism and despair is one of the things that attracts autocratic leaders.
History is a mess. What do you think?

Also, if i were to make a new religion. Here
Only added rule. Cannibalism is illegal
 
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Brian2

Veteran Member
If you look at history of man. Roman empire and other civilizations. Autocratic regimes has always been a huge deal then. And Abrahamic religions has often been subpar to that. Interms of authority and government.

The west now is more what one can call Liberal Democracy.
Though arguably its due to tyranny at the time in France, because of French revolution that spread through the western world to what we have today.
If you however look at countries like China, their history seem to be (in communist modernized concept) that anything trying to split China up is outside interference. Despite interms of ideals that not having freedom of press or speech is a form of oppression

So i guess i do wonder whether autocracy is a evolutionary form, til someone achieves their goal. And then its "you know in modern age is where Liberal Democracy is at its peak". Or whether autocrats are simply too evil? And just believes humans are too stupid so you need leader worship and so forth, the parades.

Rather than a government ruled by the people.

I guess its weird seeing how Abrahamic religions has always had a thing for autocratic regime mentality, even Catholic Church has reformed since then due to influence of Liberal Democracy. As compared to other places where other countries is more tuned to autocratic government.

Nationalism and despair is one of the things that attracts autocratic leaders.
History is a mess. What do you think?

Also, if i were to make a new religion. Here
Only added rule. Cannibalism is illegal

In the OT this concept existed and everyone was to be equal under the law but Christianity brought the idea of equality of humans into a world where equality was seen as a silly concept.
Democracy in ancient Greece was the rule of the rich really.
Christianity of the various ages was a product of the culture it lived in as well as of the Christian teachings from the Bible. It is in the West that the culture of freedom aligned with the teachings of the Bible to make modern democracy.
But of course modern democracy is not a perfect system and the West tries to force it on countries that do not seem to want it.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
To be honest, I'm not sure there are many religions that don't align with autocratic culture. There are a few, but not many
 
The west now is more what one can call Liberal Democracy.
Though arguably its due to tyranny at the time in France, because of French revolution that spread through the western world to what we have today...

I guess its weird seeing how Abrahamic religions has always had a thing for autocratic regime mentality, even Catholic Church has reformed since then due to influence of Liberal Democracy. As compared to other places where other countries is more tuned to autocratic government.

Liberal democracy is a historical rarity, so it's not surprising that religion has been aligned with illiberal rulers throughout history. But it's also not purely random that liberal democracy emerged out of a European Christian context.

So while it's true Christianity has been associated with autocrats, and has often had illiberal trends, it was also a dissenting and progressive voice and played a role in the evolution of liberal democracy, the foundations of which long predate the French Revolution.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
If you look at history of man. Roman empire and other civilizations. Autocratic regimes has always been a huge deal then. And Abrahamic religions has often been subpar to that. Interms of authority and government.

The west now is more what one can call Liberal Democracy.
Though arguably its due to tyranny at the time in France, because of French revolution that spread through the western world to what we have today.
If you however look at countries like China, their history seem to be (in communist modernized concept) that anything trying to split China up is outside interference. Despite interms of ideals that not having freedom of press or speech is a form of oppression

So i guess i do wonder whether autocracy is a evolutionary form, til someone achieves their goal. And then its "you know in modern age is where Liberal Democracy is at its peak". Or whether autocrats are simply too evil? And just believes humans are too stupid so you need leader worship and so forth, the parades.

Rather than a government ruled by the people.

I guess its weird seeing how Abrahamic religions has always had a thing for autocratic regime mentality, even Catholic Church has reformed since then due to influence of Liberal Democracy. As compared to other places where other countries is more tuned to autocratic government.

Nationalism and despair is one of the things that attracts autocratic leaders.
History is a mess. What do you think?

Also, if i were to make a new religion. Here
Only added rule. Cannibalism is illegal

Your China statements are just weird.
You might want to avoid comments on things you know nothing about.
 
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