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Israel Advocating Limiting Free Speech In USA ??

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Where were all of those now crying about freedom of speech when pro-Israel and pro-Jewish speakers were shouted down or banned from speaking on college campuses? Many were nowhere to be seen. Hypocrites.
No one cried then.....no one's crying now.
 

Sanzbir

Well-Known Member
So when the Nazis portray the Jews as leading the Prime Minister of the UK around it's anti-Semitic.
When the NYT portrays the Jews as leading the US President around it's not anti-Semitic.

Thanks dude.

A Jew not the Jews you willfully dense fool. Netanyahu himself says he has had influence over Trump's decisions. So why are you being such a little a baby over someone else saying through political cartoon what Netanyahu himself has already said??

That the Jews are the force behind all the powerful Governments has been used as an excuse for systemic violence against Jews since the start of Nationalism.

So if a Jewish state happens to influence another country, no one can point that out, just because sometimes the accusations of Jews being behind a government are false??

Israel is a nuclear power. How about you guys stop lobbying my country for military support. You're a big boy country that doesn't need mommy America to defend you, stand on your own feet!!

Dear goodness, I hope people never try to learn from this and shut down criticism of Saudi Arabia's influence over the US by screeching "Islamaphobia" over any concern about, say, Yemen. The day that starts to happen is the sign that the sun is setting.

Copying Nazi cartoons is not a minor negative.

All political cartoons look like that, you must know this, so you're either lying to me or to yourself. Why don't you complain when a political cartoon caricaturize African or Asian persons, both have also suffered at the hands of racist propaganda, but we're still allowed to make caricatures of those persons.

Every other country can take criticism through political cartoon, why can't you??

Neither the NK nor Satmar are even remotely numerous enough to be shown as an example for Haredim, less even for Orthodoxy as a whole, let alone all Jewry.

Furthermore NK repeatedly spreads lies about basic TaNaKh and Talmud verses to fester the idea that it's not allowed for Jews to return to Israel.
Meanwhile in reality, multiple Sages and prominent Rabbis who were all far more respectable have made it clear that it's good for us to return home.

Doesn't matter how prominent you are, Jews aren't a hivemind, so you should not be able to wield all Jews as a shield against criticism of your stupid little country.

Israel and America are really authoritarian.
Meanwhile behind the great Firewall that totally does not exist (lmao) you are thrown into a dark cell when you criticise the Government.

Nothing of the like happens in Israel or America.
Case in point: You aren't in jail.

B**** please, America is in the process right now of extraditing a foreign journalist for the horrendous crime of embarrassing them on the internet by releasing evidence of war crimes. They do not come after me because I'm not a journalist exposing their war crimes.

Just because China is more authoritarian doesn't mean America is not.

Stalin was more authoritarian than Hitler, that doesn't mean Nazi Germany wasn't authoritarian you scrub.

So copying Nazi cartoons is not anti-Semitic. Got it.

Can you show me a caricature of an Israeli politician that you believe isn't antisemetic??

'Cause it seems like every one I've seen has some pathetic whiny baby crying about how it is offensive to them.

Actually let me tell ya this: If you can show me a political cartoon that is critical of Isreali influence on American politics that you would say is not antisemetic, then I will drop everything and concede defeat to you. Even if ya have to draw it yourself. If ya can show me just one not-antisemetic cartoon that is critical of Israel and America for that reason, then I will take your complaints that this cartoon is uniquely offensive seriously.

Until you can give me that, though, I am forced to think you're just a whiny little baby who can't stand to have his precious little country criticized (while at the same time criticizing others for not being able to take criticism to their countries).

Give me just one example of a political cartoon on this topic that isn't offensive to you. At that point in time I will retract all my arguments, concede defeat, and even offer an apology. But I'm not sure you are capable of doing such a thing, because I'm fairly sure you'd cry "antisemitism" whenever any cartoon criticizes Israel...

((Also what Nazi cartoon in specific are you alleging this one is a copy of?? It's not inherently a Nazi cartoon just because it portrays in a negative light a Jew (again a Jew, not the Jews. You pathetic fanboys who can't take criticism towards your super-special country can't seem to distinguish between the two when it is convenient.) You mentioned a Nazi cartoon of the Jews leading around a blind British PM... does this cartoon exist outside of your imagination?? My Google-Fu is failing me trying to find what you are talking about.))
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
((Also what Nazi cartoon in specific are you alleging this one is a copy of?? It's not inherently a Nazi cartoon just because it portrays in a negative light a Jew (again a Jew, not the Jews. You pathetic fanboys who can't take criticism towards your super-special country can't seem to distinguish between the two when it is convenient.) You mentioned a Nazi cartoon of the Jews leading around a blind British PM... does this cartoon exist outside of your imagination?? My Google-Fu is failing me trying to find what you are talking about.))

Picture on the left; source Lustige Blätter, #44/1940

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You can remove your foot from your mouth now.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
A Jew not the Jews you willfully dense fool. Netanyahu himself says he has had influence over Trump's decisions. So why are you being such a little a baby over someone else saying through political cartoon what Netanyahu himself has already said??

Why does Netanyahu have a Star of David around his neck? There are a multitude of cartoons where that is not the case because the most identifying characteristic is usually the face.
Also it's not the Israeli flag pattern around his neck, just the Star.
And why is Trump wearing a Kippah.

You also do realise that you are defending a cartoonist who now whines about the Jews coming after him?


So if a Jewish state happens to influence another country, no one can point that out, just because sometimes the accusations of Jews being behind a government are false??

So you are saying that Trump is blind, secretly a Jew and is being controlled by the Jews?
Because that's still the comic.


Israel is a nuclear power. How about you guys stop lobbying my country for military support. You're a big boy country that doesn't need mommy America to defend you, stand on your own feet!!

The military support Israel gets from the US is in form of gift cards. Israel can only buy American military goods with these gift cards.

It's quite literally a subsidy for US jobs.

Oh and if you stop the subsidies for Israel you have to stop the subsidies for Egypt who then go to the Chinese/Russians and then we are back in the middle of the cold war before Egypt switched camps.
Or do you think they switched camps because you Americans are so cute?


Doesn't matter how prominent you are, Jews aren't a hivemind, so you should not be able to wield all Jews as a shield against criticism of your stupid little country.

Nah it matters because a Rabbi is not a Rabbi.
Rank is a matter of fact among Rabbis.
Some random Rabbi who lives today can't make up stuff just because he dislikes the State of Israel.
You should probably read up on the different rabbinical eras and how they work.
It's almost as if there's a reason we read their works from the early middle ages and before.

Oh and the TaNaKh does not forbid a Jewish state. Sorry about that.


Can you show me a caricature of an Israeli politician that you believe isn't antisemetic??

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Well that was easy.

Now what?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A Jew not the Jews you willfully dense fool. Netanyahu himself says he has had influence over Trump's decisions. So why are you being such a little a baby over someone else saying through political cartoon what Netanyahu himself has already said??



So if a Jewish state happens to influence another country, no one can point that out, just because sometimes the accusations of Jews being behind a government are false??

Israel is a nuclear power. How about you guys stop lobbying my country for military support. You're a big boy country that doesn't need mommy America to defend you, stand on your own feet!!

Dear goodness, I hope people never try to learn from this and shut down criticism of Saudi Arabia's influence over the US by screeching "Islamaphobia" over any concern about, say, Yemen. The day that starts to happen is the sign that the sun is setting.



All political cartoons look like that, you must know this, so you're either lying to me or to yourself. Why don't you complain when a political cartoon caricaturize African or Asian persons, both have also suffered at the hands of racist propaganda, but we're still allowed to make caricatures of those persons.

Every other country can take criticism through political cartoon, why can't you??



Doesn't matter how prominent you are, Jews aren't a hivemind, so you should not be able to wield all Jews as a shield against criticism of your stupid little country.



B**** please, America is in the process right now of extraditing a foreign journalist for the horrendous crime of embarrassing them on the internet by releasing evidence of war crimes. They do not come after me because I'm not a journalist exposing their war crimes.

Just because China is more authoritarian doesn't mean America is not.

Stalin was more authoritarian than Hitler, that doesn't mean Nazi Germany wasn't authoritarian you scrub.



Can you show me a caricature of an Israeli politician that you believe isn't antisemetic??

'Cause it seems like every one I've seen has some pathetic whiny baby crying about how it is offensive to them.

Actually let me tell ya this: If you can show me a political cartoon that is critical of Isreali influence on American politics that you would say is not antisemetic, then I will drop everything and concede defeat to you. Even if ya have to draw it yourself. If ya can show me just one not-antisemetic cartoon that is critical of Israel and America for that reason, then I will take your complaints that this cartoon is uniquely offensive seriously.

Until you can give me that, though, I am forced to think you're just a whiny little baby who can't stand to have his precious little country criticized (while at the same time criticizing others for not being able to take criticism to their countries).

Give me just one example of a political cartoon on this topic that isn't offensive to you. At that point in time I will retract all my arguments, concede defeat, and even offer an apology. But I'm not sure you are capable of doing such a thing, because I'm fairly sure you'd cry "antisemitism" whenever any cartoon criticizes Israel...

((Also what Nazi cartoon in specific are you alleging this one is a copy of?? It's not inherently a Nazi cartoon just because it portrays in a negative light a Jew (again a Jew, not the Jews. You pathetic fanboys who can't take criticism towards your super-special country can't seem to distinguish between the two when it is convenient.) You mentioned a Nazi cartoon of the Jews leading around a blind British PM... does this cartoon exist outside of your imagination?? My Google-Fu is failing me trying to find what you are talking about.))
Let's be kinder.
We don't want the mods rapping knuckles & handing out demerits.
 
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