Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks

[lokinforpeace]

Israel isn't forcing anyone in Gaza to stay there. Egypt and Hamas are.

Of course not, bibi wants to claim the land for themselves.

 

[Father Heathen]

Women, kids, elderly they don't care. They either kill them or kidnap them.
Now they are threatening to kill 100+ hostages on camera one by one.
They need to be wiped off the map.

I agree 100%, but what happened to...

Its war. Its not good but it happens.

US wars have killed many children.

Where Is the Outcry Over Children Killed by U.S.-Led Forces?

There can be no justification for the killing of children by U.S.-led forces in Syria, Iraq and other war zones since 9/11.

blogs.scientificamerican.com

...?

 

[Revoltingest]

Women, kids, elderly they don't care. They either kill them or kidnap them.
Now they are threatening to kill 100+ hostages on camera one by one.
They need to be wiped off the map.

So many people wanting to wipe others
out of existence. What ratio of innocents
to guilty is acceptable to you?

 

[We Never Know]

I agree 100%, but what happened to...

...?

Nothing happened. Why outcry about one and not the other?

 

[We Never Know]

So many people wanting to wipe others
out of existence. What ratio of innocents
to guilty is acceptable to you?

How do you propose to successfully defend against Hamas kidnapping and killing innocents while they hide behind the people of Gaza(more innocents) as shields?

 

[Revoltingest]

How do you propose to successfully defend against Hamas kidnapping and killing innocents while they hide behind the people of Gaza(more innocents) as shields?

Hand to hand combat.
Indiscriminate bombing with the hope of Hamas
fighters dying along with civilians is a war crime.

 

[We Never Know]

Hand to hand combat.
Indiscriminate bombing with the hope of Hamas
fighters dying along with civilians is a war crime.

"Hand to hand combat"

Tell that to the Hamas cowards that started the war by bombing, kidnapping and killing while hiding behind the people of Gaza.

 

[Revoltingest]

"Hand to hand combat"

Tell that to the Hamas cowards that started the war by bombing, kidnapping and killing while hiding behind the people of Gaza.

Do you oppose that, & favor the current
bombing with the high civilian toll?

 

[We Never Know]

Do you oppose that, & favor the
bombing with the high civilian toll?

Israel wants to go in for a ground war. Many appose it.

 

[Revoltingest]

Israel wants to go in for a ground war. Many appose it.

What do you favor?

 

[We Never Know]

What do you favor?

There is no favor.
Many people will die either way.
A ground war won't be much less deadly, if any, because Hamas is blending in with the people, using the people to hide..

Two people stand in front of you.
One is going to kill you but you don't know which one.
Killing them both is the only way to guarantee you live right?

 

[Revoltingest]

There is no favor.
Many people will die either way.
A ground war won't be much less deadly, if any, because Hamas is blending in with the people.

Two people stand in front of you.
One is going to kill you but you don't know which one.
Killing them both is the only way to guarantee you live right?

Israel's kill ratio is above 4 to 1 now.
I don't believe in killing extra people to be on the safe side.
Would you kill the children & infants too?
After all, they could become combatants as teens.

 

[We Never Know]

Israel's kill ratio is above 4 to 1 now.
I don't believe in killing extra people to be on the safe side.
Would you kill the children & infants too?
After all, they could become combatants as teens.

"Israel's kill ratio is above 4 to 1 now."

Its sad but its war. Look how many kids and innocents were killed or mamed by little boy and fat man.


"Would you kill the children & infants too?
After all, they could become combatants as teens."

But they aren't. They are just inocent kids caught in a war. Causualties of war will happen in any war as long as the fighting is around/among civilians.... Especially if one side of the war sees them as expendable so they hide among them and/or use them for shields.

 

[Revoltingest]

"Israel's kill ratio is above 4 to 1 now."

Its sad but its war. Look how many kids and innocents were killed or mamed by little boy and fat man.


"Would you kill the children & infants too?
After all, they could become combatants as teens."

But they aren't. They are just inocent kids caught in a war. Causualties of war will happen in any war as long as the fighting is around/among civilians.... Especially if one side of the war sees them as expendable so they hide among them and/or use them for shields.

And the other side takes advantage of that
to purposely kill the human shields.

 

[We Never Know]

And the other side takes advantage of that
to purposely kill the human shields.

I wouldn't call it taking advantage.
I would call it their only option.

The best thing that could happen is if Hamas to fight a war, get out of Gaza and away from the women and kids(all innocents) but thats not how they operate. They see those people as expendables and will use them anyway they can.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wouldn't call it taking advantage.
I would call it their only option.

The best thing that could happen is if Hamas to fight a war, get out of Gaza and away from the women and kids(all innocents) but thats not how they operate. They see those people as expendables and will use them anyway they can.

The weaker parties in a war use the only
tools available to them. Israel created the
circumstances, so it owns the consequences.

 

[We Never Know]

The weaker parties in a war use the only
tools available to them. Israel created the
circumstances, so it owns the consequences.

"The weaker parties in a war use the only
tools available to them"

And that is taking advantage of innocents. Do you find that acceptable?

 

[Revoltingest]

"The weaker parties in a war use the only
tools available to them"

And that is taking advantage of innocents. Do you find that acceptable?

No.
But it's what happens.
Prosecute both Hamas & Israel for war crimes.
Especially the entire government of the latter,
who created the conditions leading to this war.

 

[Father Heathen]

Nothing happened. Why outcry about one and not the other?

That's what I'm asking you. I believe that deliberately targeting and murdering civilians is wrong regardless of who does it. Kids don't deserve to die, regardless of what "side" they were born into. Both Hamas and the IDF have their hands stained with innocent blood.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's what I'm asking you. I believe that deliberately targeting and murdering civilians is wrong regardless of who does it. Kids don't deserve to die, regardless of what "side" they were born into. Both Hamas and the IDF have their hands stained with innocent blood.

When something is uncomfortable to face,
eg, justifying the unjustifiable, there's always....
"But look over here!"