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Israel-Gaza : "Netanyahu vows no Palestinian state ..."

Laniakea

Not of this world
This is utter denial.
But even if you disagree about the definition
& application of the word, to justify the kill &
maim ration of Israel to Hamas, & to call for
a diaspora, sending all Palestinians to Africa,
this is hideously immoral.
Israel's dishonest "voluntary emigration" is
the gravy on the cake that makes it "genocide".
Hyperbole.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you say so. I, on the other hand, do not find any of this to be OK -- including your obnoxious vitriol.
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Laniakea

Not of this world
Your evidence is that you were writing to @Bthoth? I don't understand.
I see the source of confusion now. I meant it sarcastically. Put it together that way with sentence after it and then it makes sense.
He seemed to believe that when Hamas claims that 25,000 people were killed, they are all innocent civilians and being targeted by Israel, fueling the "genocide" narrative.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Israel has been stopping Palestine from existing. The thread title is perfect evidence and the attempt to eliminate the population has been ongoing for half a century.
Israel expects to wipe palestine off the map.

Where are the condemnation for those atrocities?
What does that even mean?

"Palestine" is just a name. Persons exist, land exists, and the persons occupy the land and organize themselves in various ways and give themselves collective names out of political convenience. Some of those names last for longer, even far longer than others.

In the case of Palestine, there is a strong case that it was always a fictional or at best tentative place.

The political will to promote a Palestinian Authority exists, as do various groups that attempt to be leaders of the persons on Gaza and on the West Bank, both politically and militarily. Those groups have a very difficult and often bloody coexistence with their neighbor Israel, but they do exist.

It seems to me that it takes some form of daring to accuse Israel of willingness to wipe Palestine off when what little exists of an actual Palestine is defined mostly by its willingness to offer their blood to oppose Israel's existence.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What does that even mean?

"Palestine" is just a name. Persons exist, land exists, and the persons occupy the land and organize themselves in various ways and give themselves collective names out of political convenience. Some of those names last for longer, even far longer than others.

In the case of Palestine, there is a strong case that it was always a fictional or at best tentative place.

The political will to promote a Palestinian Authority exists, as do various groups that attempt to be leaders of the persons on Gaza and on the West Bank, both politically and militarily. Those groups have a very difficult and often bloody coexistence with their neighbor Israel, but they do exist.

It seems to me that it takes some form of daring to accuse Israel of willingness to wipe Palestine off when what little exists of an actual Palestine is defined mostly by its willingness to offer their blood to oppose Israel's existence.
Aping your post....
"Israel" is just a name. Persons exist there on land stolen from
prior inhabitants. The God who supposedly gave them this
land doesn't exist.

Your rationale to justify Israel's wiping out Palestinians in Gaza
(or whatever you'd call them & their land). You presume that
Palestinians want to wipe out Israel....all the while that Israel
actually seeks to wipe out Palestinians. Whomever isn't dead
is to be "voluntarily emigrated" to Africa. This is Israel's stated
intention supported by its actions.

God's Chosen People.
What a load.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Aping your post....
"Israel" is just a name. Persons exist there on land stolen from
prior inhabitants. The God who supposedly gave them this
land doesn't exist.

Your rationale to justify Israel's wiping out Palestinians in Gaza
(or whatever you'd call them & their land). You presume that
Palestinians want to wipe out Israel....all the while that Israel
actually seeks to wipe out Palestinians. Whomever isn't dead
is to be "voluntarily emigrated" to Africa. This is Israel's stated
intention supported by its actions.

God's Chosen People.
What a load.
They aren't being "wiped out". That's just part of Hamas propaganda that you're parroting.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
They aren't being "wiped out". That's just part of Hamas propaganda that you're parroting.
Apparently you don't read the news.
To remove from Gaza the ones Israel hasn't killed
fits the definition of "genocide".
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Apparently you don't read the news.
To remove from Gaza the ones Israel hasn't killed
fits the definition of "genocide".
Did you even read the article before posting it? It refutes your claim! :smilecat:
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Aping your post....
"Israel" is just a name. Persons exist there on land stolen from
prior inhabitants. The God who supposedly gave them this
land doesn't exist.

Should people really talk about stealing of land as if people sprouted naturally from the soil?

Particularly when they happen to live in the Americas and can hardly claim to be of native people ancestry?

Your rationale to justify Israel's wiping out Palestinians in Gaza

Where can I find that post? It is certainly not what I said or intended in the post you are quoting here.

(or whatever you'd call them & their land). You presume that
Palestinians want to wipe out Israel....all the while that Israel
actually seeks to wipe out Palestinians. Whomever isn't dead
is to be "voluntarily emigrated" to Africa. This is Israel's stated
intention supported by its actions.

God's Chosen People.
What a load.

Are you even aware of that Hamas is?

You used to make more of an effort to deserve being read.
 
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