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Israel-Gaza : "Netanyahu vows no Palestinian state ..."

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Should people really talk about stealing of land as if people sprouted naturally from the soil?
If you don't recognize possession rights,
& allow that occupants can be violently
removed for new occupants, then we've
no common ground at all.
Particularly when they happen to live in the Americas and can hardly claim to be of native people ancestry?
Whataboutism has no bearing on Israel
killing Palestinians & stealing their land.
Where can I find that post? It is certainly not what I said or intended in the post you are quoting here.
It's no single post. Your posts have been
generally dismissive of Palestianian rights,
& favor Israel.
Are you even aware of that Hamas is?
Care to re-phrase that to something intelligible?
You used to make more of an effort to deserve being read.
I once thought you respected human rights.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
^ this persistent and transparent antisemitism is shameful
There you go!
I was wondering when you'd trot out that
stereotypical churlish charge. How else can
one defend Israel's genocide of Palestinians.

Your posts show lack of humanity for Palestinians.
Tis shameful islamophobia.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Is that word supposed to hold more significance that antisemitism?
In this case, it's more applicable.
I've no preference for Jews or Muslims.
To me they're just people, with equal
human rights.
But to people of certain religious persuasions,
people of other faiths are "animals" to be
subject to apartheid, murder, theft, war crimes,
diaspora, & genocide.
So yes, "islamophobia" applies to those who
advocate death & destruction of Muslims
simply because they are who they are where
they are.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
In this case, it's more applicable.
I've no preference for Jews or Muslims.
To me they're just people, with equal
human rights.

So far, so good.

But to people of certain religious persuasions,
people of other faiths are "animals" to be
subject to apartheid, murder, theft, war crimes,
diaspora, & genocide.

The Jewish people went through that. Are you claiming they're suddenly guilty of it?

So yes, "islamophobia" applies to those who
advocate death & destruction of Muslims
simply because they are who they are where
they are.

More likely, it's those who hate terrorism that feel the need to finally get serious about eliminating the perpetrators of it. Have you forgotten about what happened Oct. 7th?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The Jewish people went through that. Are you claiming they're suddenly guilty of it?
I claim that Israel is guilty of it.
Many Jews, even those in Israel oppose the current genocide.
So you should be careful to no over-generalize.
More likely, it's those who hate terrorism that feel the need to finally get serious about eliminating the perpetrators of it. Have you forgotten about what happened Oct. 7th?
Israel only hates terrorism against Israel.
It's perfectly fine with committing terrorism
against Muslims. All it has to do is re-label
"state terrorism" as "self defense" then it's
righteous.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Israel only hates terrorism against Israel.
It's perfectly fine with committing terrorism
against Muslims. All it has to do is re-label
"state terrorism" as "self defense" then it's
righteous.

You mean they only react when terrorism is against Israel.

I'm sure glad woke culture wasn't around when Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese. We'd be too afraid of being "anti-Asian" if we responded.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You mean they only react when terrorism is against Israel.
Israel has been proactive.
In the year before Oct 7, it killed more Palestinians
than in any year since 2005. It did this in "self defense".
How well did that work out?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Israel has been proactive.
In the year before Oct 7, it killed more Palestinians
than in any year since 2005. It did this in "self defense".
How well did that work out?
Are you implying that Israel deserved the attack? For the same reason, would you also say that America deserved Pearl Harbor and 9/11?
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Another error, boychik.
I favor self defense, Mr Nimrod.
I've even advocated it for Israel, laddie.
But genocide is not self defense, Flanders.
It's genocide, ie, mass killing that's augmented
by sending them all fleeing from their homeland.
Israel is only making their country more threatened.
But fanatical religious bigotry is where reason goes to die.
If you have advocated for Israel to defend itself, then why are you so opposed to them defending themselves against terrorists who have repeatedly and openly stated Israel cannot exist and must be annihilated? You keep saying Israel is committing genocide, when it’s the Islamic terrorists (using the Palestinians as pawns and weapons) against Israel in their attempt to achieve their openly stated goal of the genocide of Israel.
At this point, it appears that Israel is facilitating the movement of Palestinian civilians for their own safety as the Israeli military continues to pursue Hamas. So that doesn’t equate with genocide.
One thing I find ironic is that none of the surrounding Arab countries have ever offered to take in Palestinian refugees. For one thing, Palestinians are Arabs. Another is that it was the Arab nations that caused the whole problem to begin with when they immediately told Palestinians to leave their homes before they attacked Israel in 1948. Since then these displaced Palestinians have been used and abused as pawns against Israel by Islamic terrorists intent on destroying Israel. Israel on the other hand, welcomed thousands of Jewish refugees driven out of all the surrounding Arab countries, as well as including Arab citizens and others.

It’s probably irrelevant, but I don’t know what your references to boychik, Mr. Nimrod, Laddie, or Flanders is about.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Are you implying that Israel deserved the attack?
I imply nothing.
I've clearly stated that Israel's actions over
70+ years have directly caused this kind of attack.
Their brutal murderous thieving treatment of
Palestinians had such foreseeable consequences.
And Israel thinks it will achieve security by
murdering tens of thousands of them, &
sending the rest to Africa. It won't work.
For the same reason, would you also say that America deserved Pearl Harbor and 9/11?
That to was not only foreseeable, but was
specifically predicted by General Billy Mitchell.

You should study history. It repeats itself.
Then you would begin to understand
actions leading to consequences, & the
importance of being responsible for them.
"Deserve" is the province of fanatics.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If you have advocated for Israel to defend itself, then why are you so opposed to them defending themselves against terrorists who have repeatedly and openly stated Israel cannot exist and must be annihilated?
You pretend that this is self defense.
But it's vengeance & genocide.
Israel wants Palestinians to not exist as a
people. Oh, the irony of these deadly
fanatics with humanity for none but their
own.
And many "good" Christians cheer them on.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
I imply nothing.
I've clearly stated that Israel's actions over
70+ years have directly caused this kind of attack.
Their brutal murderous thieving treatment of
Palestinians had such foreseeable consequences.
And Israel thinks it will achieve security by
murdering tens of thousands of them, &
sending the rest to Africa. It won't work.

Your antisemitic rant is quite revealing, not only of your own hatred, but also that of others who spew the same type of rhetoric. So Left-wing extremist that even Biden can't catch a break with you guys.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Your support for genocide is quite disgusting.
Islamophobia is so fashionable these days
among your kind. Such hatred because of
religion.

Even if that were true, why would you find Islamaphobia to be so bad if you find antisemitism so appealing? Don't you remember your side's dog whistles? "End hate", Hate has no home here, All are welcome here, etc.?
The Jewish community used to be taken for granted by the democrap party. But now that you guys show your true colors, watch your party come crashing down.
 
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