Denying it justifies it, eh.
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Israel is losing militarily and politically
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Evidence for useful idiots. I think you are expressing your subjective feelings, yet treating them as objectively true. Is that the case?
Colt
Well-Known Member
I recall that in your mind nothing is actually true, especially if you don't like it.
Colt
Well-Known Member
The clarity of your tunnel vision.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, it is that I know nothing, but rather believe about truth. But I can still assume that the world is real and epistemlogically fair.
Thus we can do everyday world in practice, if you could learn how that one works.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
The long term problem in the reports I brought demonstrate Palestine's consistent intentional indoctrination of children in Gaza which perpetuate never-ending war through the education system. The UN funded and supported public schools in Gaza are recruiting centers for terrorists. Until this is resolved, there will always be "resistance". It's a consequence of what the children are being taught and the stories that are being told. I do not see anything in the article relating to this.
Those in Israel who have attempted to block humanitarian aid are doing so for a variety of reasons. Primary among them is the ICJ's ruling. See article 85 listed below, emphasis mine:
85. The Court deems it necessary to emphasize that all parties to the conflict in the Gaza Strip are bound by international humanitarian law. It is gravely concerned about the fate of the hostages abducted during the attack in Israel on 7 October 2023 and held since then by Hamas and other armed groups, and calls for their immediate and unconditional release. - SOURCE: ICJ-ICJ.org
"Unconditional". Those who are opposed to aid going into Gaza take this ruling to an extreme. Unconditional means that the hostages need to be returned before any other actions are taken. This makes sense in some ways because otherwise any terrorist organization can rape and kidnap as a means to force its adversary into negotiations. Hence the axiom: "Never negotiate with terrorists." First release the hostages, then, negotiations regarding humanitarian aid can begin. At least, that's the position of those who are extremely opposed to humanitarian aid being a priority at this time.
My point of view is that both can happen simultaneously. The search-and-rescue operation and the humanitarian aid mission can be conducted concurrently without compromising each other. But, I agree that no negotiations should be conducted until Palestine demonstrates that it is not a terrorist organization which rapes and kidnaps as a gateway to its political objectives.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You still haven't pointed out any gas chambers or bodies piled up like cords of wood with pre dug mass graves ready and waiting.
Your idea of * ahem * 'genocide' is absolutely ridiculous.
I did not and don't accept your frame of reference. To me the two sides are those Palestinians and Israelis that want to live in peace with each other and those that don't and are willing to at a minimum ethnically cleanse the other side "from the river to the sea" by any and all means.
The 1948 UN definition isn't based upon such
specific method of death & dispersal.
Your attempt to make "genocide" apply only
to Jewish victims is pretty absurd.
Oh, you're one of those who see that
as a call to exterminate Jews, are you.
That's a specious Zionist inference.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Keep denying what real genocide entails along with your self definition of what a coup is.
Why not respond to what I wrote and not make up something that I did not write. From the river to the sea - Wikipedia - speaks to some on both sides wanting all the land. From the river to the sea - Wikipedia
Looks like Log in own eye problem .. who is the one in denial of "Genocide" .. claiming gas chambers need be used to do the killing .. the graves dug and waiting we have in Gaza .. .. what did you think those pits full of dead people were ? .. Not that I am claiming this amounts to genocide .. it is you who is doing this ..
The depth of denial need not involve the intricacies of the word Genocide .. the use of the word in of itself an attempt at deflection and denial .. as the bar is not "Genocide" to begin with... War Crimes .. Crimes against Humaity .. Mass Murder .. xenophobic extermination of a population .. each on their own justifies a trip to the Hague for Bibi.. .. and Genocide Joe should follow .. and try not to confuse Genocide Joe's moniker with Gaza .. he earned that elsewhere..
as the Irish delegation to the UN Say -- and backed now by every nation on the planet except the tail being wagged USA "The Hague is too good for Bibi" You see .. now u understand .. "in Bold" what it is that you are in denial of .. the Holocaust .. the mass atrocity .. violation of every international law on the books pretty near .. kind of denial ..
or should we call it a "Mini" holocaust cause the numbers not quite as large .. mind you .. those brown shirts of the Warsaw Ghetto ain't got nothing on Bibi's Gaza Concentration Camp .. we need to nip this demon in the bud before we get to the medium level Holocaust.. or even Genocide ..
You oppose the 1948 UN definition
in favor of your personal one?
Is that how you become comfortable
with mass murder & driving Palestinians
from their homes & land?
I did.
Perhaps you meant something different from how it appears?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Keep on convincing yourself that your own personal definition is completely on par with the 1948 definition for which, by the way, you can kindly point out where exactly is Israel listed during its ratification including reservations made for immunity from prosecution for genocide, with consent from the national government?
1948 UN definition.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So please continue and show me where Israel is listed upon its ratification , including reservations made from prosecution for genocide with consent from the national government.
McBell
Unbound
Please point to in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide linked below where there it even mentions your above listed requirements (gas chambers, piles of bodies, mass graves (pre-dug or otherwise)) of genocide.