Israel is losing militarily and politically

[sun rise]

And @metis , here's another reason why I post as I do. (source Haaretz)

Netanyahu Minister to Nations Recognizing Palestine: 'Only Israel From the River to the Sea'

This slogan is a close cousin to Lebensraum and I'm sure you know the history of that word.

 

[metis]

I took that to be a rhetorical question not needing an answer. I responded to the post itself in #115.

No, you did NOT answer my question, so all you are doing is playing games like some of the others here when I asked them the same question.

So, here's the question I asked you: "If it was your town and your neighbors and your families that were under attack, would some of you take that exact same position that this is your own fault?" So, are you goin to answer it or just play more games?

You've not addressed my point made over and over and over in the title and OP that Israel is LOSING.

A war is not over until it's over, but in this case, it's going to be an on-going problem. However, Israel has no choice but to continue to weaken Hamas.

Israel clearly has little interest in recovering the hostages taken on October 7.

Pure unadulterated nonsense. Go into the Jewish community as say that and then listen.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

"If it was your town and your neighbors and your families that were under attack, would some of you take that exact same position that this is your own fault?"

Kind of like how you expect Palestinians to blame themselves for their own mass murder, yeah?

Honestly, your willingness to defend war crimes and mass death is appalling. You should be embarrassed.

 

[metis]

And @metis , here's another reason why I post as I do. (source Haaretz)

Netanyahu Minister to Nations Recognizing Palestine: 'Only Israel From the River to the Sea'

This slogan is a close cousin to Lebensraum and I'm sure you know the history of that word.

The minister is not calling the shots here, but there are some radicals in the War Cabinet nevertheless.

 

[sun rise]

No, you did NOT answer my question, so all you are doing is playing games like some of the others here when I asked them the same question.

I created this thread to discuss the idea that Israel is losing. I remain focused on that. What I posted in several posts upstream in this thread is what I'd be doing. I suggest you go back and read those posts for a detailed answer to what I consider a proper response for myself and for Israel.

The minister is not calling the shots here, but there are some radicals in the War Cabinet nevertheless.

Using inflammatory language like "human animals" along with wanting to have settlers move back to Gaza makes the problem worse. From the Times of Israel

Haredi minister rejects Palestinian statehood, says Israelis can’t live ‘alongside a state of human animals’​

Using inflammatory language unusual for an ultra-Orthodox political leader, Housing and Construction Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf, head of the United Torah Judaism party, comes out strongly against the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, declaring that Israelis cannot live “alongside a state of human animals.”
...
“Brutal terror must be destroyed and certainly not given independent rule. We have no desire to rule over the residents of Gaza, but we cannot live next to a state of human animals.”

Goldknopf has previously come out strongly in favor of reestablishing Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, a stance that is significantly more nationalist than previously seen by ultra-Orthodox political leaders.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Actually, Israel's many decades of brutality, murder, & theft
are the reason Hamas & other retaliatory groups exist.
So its current plan of using genocide to attack Hamas
& take Gaza is doomed to cause more attacks on Israel.

Hamas is responsible for its own actions, just like Israel.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hamas is responsible for its own actions, just like Israel.

Yes.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Yes.

So you understand that there are three sides to this conflict, right?

Just like here in America.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you understand that there are three sides to this conflict, right?

Just like here in America.

Only 3?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Only 3?

That’s how it works here in America.

 

[Revoltingest]

That’s how it works here in America.

I too am in Ameristan.
I see more than 3.

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I too am in Ameristan.
I see more than 3.

Regardless, I’m with #3.

The People.

 

[McBell]

Regardless, I’m with #3.

The People.

Which ones?
the ones for 1, the ones for 2, the ones who could care less.....

 

[Revoltingest]

Which ones?
the ones for 1, the ones for 2, the ones who could care less.....

I wonder how long the noob will last here?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Which ones?
the ones for 1, the ones for 2, the ones who could care less.....

The civilians.

 

[McBell]

The civilians.

Which ones?
the ones for 1, the ones for 2, the ones who could care less.....

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Which ones?
the ones for 1, the ones for 2, the ones who could care less.....

I don’t understand your question.

Which civilians do you exclude?

It’s one group.

Had I said Hamas, would you start quizzing me on individual names?

 

[McBell]

Had I said Hamas, would you start quizzing me on individual names?

got any?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Haredi minister rejects Palestinian statehood, says Israelis can’t live ‘alongside a state of human animals’

Why do you persist in this pathetic line of attack?

It's relative easy to smear Islam by cherry-picking the most horrendous comments by Muslim extremists -- comments such as these. Shall we judge Palestinians by the words of the Hamas leadership?

 

[metis]

I created this thread to discuss the idea that Israel is losing. I remain focused on that. What I posted in several posts upstream in this thread is what I'd be doing. I suggest you go back and read those posts for a detailed answer to what I consider a proper response for myself and for Israel.



Using inflammatory language like "human animals" along with wanting to have settlers move back to Gaza makes the problem worse. From the Times of Israel

Haredi minister rejects Palestinian statehood, says Israelis can’t live ‘alongside a state of human animals’​

Using inflammatory language unusual for an ultra-Orthodox political leader, Housing and Construction Minister Yitzhak Goldknopf, head of the United Torah Judaism party, comes out strongly against the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, declaring that Israelis cannot live “alongside a state of human animals.”
...
“Brutal terror must be destroyed and certainly not given independent rule. We have no desire to rule over the residents of Gaza, but we cannot live next to a state of human animals.”

Goldknopf has previously come out strongly in favor of reestablishing Israeli settlements in the Gaza Strip, a stance that is significantly more nationalist than previously seen by ultra-Orthodox political leaders.

And as usual and expected, you didn't answer my simple basic question, which really does tell me that you would likely do the same, namely fight like hell if your family and friends and village were attacked like we saw on 10-7. Thus, our discussion is concluded.