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Israel Under Attack! - War Declared

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Biden says he and the Pope are ‘on the same page’ about Israel
President Biden said Monday that he and Pope Francis agree on the administration’s plan for addressing the ongoing conflict in the Middle East between Israel and Hamas, after their conversation over the weekend.
“The Pope and I are on the same page,” Mr. Biden said at an event to talk about his economic agenda. “I laid out to him what the game plan was, how we thought we should be providing the kind of assistance to Israel they needed and the Pope was across-the-board supportive of what we’re doing.”
Mr. Biden and Pope Francis spoke on Sunday about the Israel-Hamas war, discussing the “need to prevent escalation in the region and work toward a durable peace in the Middle East,” the White House said.
Little Horn and Whore are on the same page?
 

Yokefellow

Active Member
Relevant info...

When Joe Biden met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his war cabinet during his visit to Israel, the U.S. president assured them: "I don't believe you have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, and I am a Zionist."

 

FredVB

Member
The State of Israel has not yet learned what should be learned, to live with a State of Palestine. Indeed Hamas started with a great and horrible act of war on Israel. But it is not the Palestinian people, and it does not solve everything with making war to annihilate everything that it can be done to in that Palestinian area.
 

FredVB

Member
You're 100% wrong.
I am sure if you wanted to you could fully show why you have reason to say that. Go ahead if you can. I am sure God wants us to live in peace with others here. But those making war in the middle east have not learned to do that, which could be sought. The way is not to eliminate other people with violence. God's people are to show godliness, the original people of Israel were told they were to be a blessing to the world, and it would not at all be with war made against others. Certainly the enemy should not have started with an attack, and I don't excuse that.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
I am sure if you wanted to you could fully show why you have reason to say that. Go ahead if you can. I am sure God wants us to live in peace with others here. But those making war in the middle east have not learned to do that, which could be sought. The way is not to eliminate other people with violence. God's people are to show godliness, the original people of Israel were told they were to be a blessing to the world, and it would not at all be with war made against others. Certainly the enemy should not have started with an attack, and I don't excuse that.
I'm not going to relitigate all that lead up to 10-7 as we've spent a lot of time on this here at RF.

It was Hamas that did 10-7 well knowing what Israel would generally do, and it is they that could stop sending missiles into Israel and surrendering so as to save their own people's lives. This is nothing new with Hamas.
 

FredVB

Member
I'm not going to relitigate all that lead up to 10-7 as we've spent a lot of time on this here at RF.

It was Hamas that did 10-7 well knowing what Israel would generally do, and it is they that could stop sending missiles into Israel and surrendering so as to save their own people's lives. This is nothing new with Hamas.

I'll miss out on whatever that was, then. Who here really knows what Hamas knew, or could have done. Certainly they should not make any attack on Israel or the people of Israel there. The attack there was went beyond brutal and was inhumane atrocity on people. The state of Israel would respond with an attack, that was predictable. But the state of Israel went far beyond a responsive attack and is totally destructive to all the Gaza strip and its people. Neither side is justified at all. Godliness is not there with eliminating others with violence. If you think it is you are not coming to godliness, it must yet be sought, knowing Jesus showed the way that is in God's will.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
But the state of Israel went far beyond a responsive attack and is totally destructive to all the Gaza strip and its people.

False.
Godliness is not there with eliminating others with violence. If you think it is you are not coming to godliness, it must yet be sought, knowing Jesus showed the way that is in God's will.

I'm into saving innocent people's lives, but modern warfare makes that VERY difficult.
 
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