Israeli soccer fans attacked in Amsterdam for being Jewish

[Regiomontanus]

'We were ambushed': Pogrom in Amsterdam wounds several

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has sent two emergency flights to evacuate Israelis from the city.

www.jpost.com

'We were ambushed': Pogrom in Amsterdam wounds several​

Assailants shouting ‘free Palestine’ brutally attack Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam

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www.timesofisrael.com

The reports from Amsterdam are harrowing. After Maccabi Tel Aviv, an Israeli soccer team, lost to Ajax, a group of their fans—mostly Jewish supporters—were brutally attacked by masked assailants. If anyone needed proof that "Free Palestine" is just another coded anti-semitic dog whistle which is basically the equivalent of "We want a 2nd Holocaust" here it is.

Many of the attackers were carrying Palestinian flags and chanting “Free Palestine.” Video footage from the scene...

So, you expect people to not protest against the genocide of the Palestinian people?

You are on the wrong side of history brother. God save your soul.

 

[Regiomontanus]

It goes worse and worse.
I was born in 1985.
I have never seen such a violence throughout Europe.
I am very proud of our EU, because this EU has done anything to promote peace and reject conflicts and wars.
For decades.

But now it seems that instead of going forward, we go backwards with the escalation of such horrific events that show that minorities can't be safe in certain countries.

Oh, only ~40 Let's talk when I am in the EU next month.

 

[blü 2]

While some of these attacks have been framed as “protests” against Israel’s policies, they increasingly reveal a darker, more sinister trend—an expression of anti-Semitic violence.

I strongly dislike the practice of defending the policies of the present Israeli government by dismissing criticism as 'antisemitic'. Self-serving and grossly disproportionate violence is representative of Netanyahu, himself clinging Trumplike to power to avoid criminal proceedings against him, and Netanyahu's supporters. In many cases it's difficult to distinguish the massacre of so many Gazan civilians from genocidal murder. The Israeli solution to the present hostilities is apparently to wipe all the Gazans out. It is by no means the case that Netanyahu speaks for Judaism.

And as commentators have observed, the future of Israel is being put in doubt, as resident successful Jewish families send their children overseas to be educated, particularly in the US and UK, not expecting them to make a future in Israel, and in many cases putting them out of reach of the draft.

 

[MayPeaceBeUpOnYou]

Another sad attempt of a western media to misguide the world by using words like antisemitism and pogrom, while deleting previous videos which gave the Tel Aviv supporters a bad image

 

[Flankerl]

So, you expect people to not protest against the genocide of the Palestinian people?

You are on the wrong side of history brother. God save your soul.

Protesting against the genocide now entails assaulting random people, including non-Jews, non-Israelis and interrogating these random people on the street on the threat of violence.
What happened again? Oh right Maccabi fans said mean things and less than a handful stole a flag.

Meanwhile we have the chat logs of the perpetrators that make it clear that the assault was planned before the Maccabi fans were even in the country.


Well quite fitting for the movement I'd say.


Oh what happened in Berlin?
Oh my.
Children?
Oups.

Jüdische Spieler beleidigt, bespuckt und mit Messern und Stöcken verfolgt: Antisemitische Angriffe auf Jugendmannschaft von Makkabi Berlin

Nach einem Spiel des jüdischen Sportclubs sollen in Berlin Spieler mit Messern verfolgt worden sein. Die Angriffe gegen den Verein häufen sich.

www.tagesspiegel.de

Jewish players insulted, spat at and chased with knives and sticks: Anti-Semitic attacks on Makkabi Berlin youth team


After a game of the Jewish sports club, players in Berlin are said to have been chased with knives. The attacks against the club are increasing.


During a football match between the Jewish sports club TuS Makkabi Berlin and Schwarz-Weiß Neukölln and afterwards, players and spectators are said to have attacked the Jewish football team on Thursday evening.


"Our children were insulted several times and even spat at - without the referee intervening or even taking notice," wrote Shlomo Afanasev, father of one of the youngsters, on the "X" platform. Over the phone, he told the Tagesspiegel that the atmosphere at the game on the sports field on Buckower Damm in Neukölln was heated from the start.


Afanasev, a military rabbi and founding member of the Jewish community Kahal Adass Yisroel, which had already been attacked, was not there himself. His 13-year-old son was "completely distraught and shocked" after the game, he says. The boy described how an opponent had spat at a Maccabi player. The opponents from the B youth team had shouted "Free Palestine" and "****ing Jews" several times.


The situation is said to have escalated after the game, but Afanasev's son was no longer present. In the group chat of his son's football team, players reported that they had been chased by several apparently Arab boys with sticks and knives. The Maccabi coach then quickly sent his boys into the car and home, Afanasev continues.

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[AsianActivist]

Protesting against the genocide now entails assaulting random people, including non-Jews, non-Israelis and interrogating these random people on the street on the threat of violence.

Not to mention that the whole accusation of "genocide" is bunk.

If Israel really wanted to deal with Gaza, they could have flattened the whole area on Oct 8. Instead, it's Israel who is actually treating the wounded civilians.

 

[blü 2]

Not to mention that the whole accusation of "genocide" is bunk.

Parts of the Israeli military program look military. Parts of it have gratuitously killed serious thousands of Gazan citizens, and also killed aid workers and medical workers from the UN and elsewhere.

If Israel really wanted to deal with Gaza, they could have flattened the whole area on Oct 8. Instead, it's Israel who is actually treating the wounded civilians.

Have you seen the photos? They've done a very good job of flattening the whole area, and there are serious tens of thousands homeless as a result.

Some of the living are no doubt actively supporting Hammas. It's very difficult to claim that the great majority are non-combatant civilians and their families. It's the sheer number of gratuitous deaths that's the problem, and the refusal of Netanyahu to look at what Israel has done to bring the situation about, let alone address it.

 

[Yerda]

Two groups of football fans fighting? Whoever heard of such a thing.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I generally find Reuters to be a reasonably objective news source. Noting this inclination, I found the following useful:

How the attacks on Israeli football supporters in Amsterdam unfolded​

Particularly:

Here is a closer look at how the situation escalated.​

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Tension began to build on Wednesday as some of the 3,000 visiting Maccabi supporters had minor altercations back and forth with locals including taxi drivers and Ajax supporters in the city centre, police said.​

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A police report said groups of Maccabi supporters burned a Palestinian flag on Dam square, pulled another down from a nearby building and vandalised a taxi.​

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After a call went out on social media, angry Muslim taxi drivers gathered outside a casino where a group of 400 Maccabi supporters were gathered, and police intervened amid skirmishes.​

Dutch media have reported on videos purportedly showing the beating of a Muslim taxi driver and a group of youths yelling anti-Semitic slurs at a person in a canal said to be a Maccabi supporter who was pushed in.​

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Reuters was unable to confirm those incidents took place as portrayed.​

Spiraling bigotry-inspired violence is vile, as is feeding it.

Thank you. This is also from the Times of Israel:

Video footage on social media shows Israeli soccer fans chanting against Arabs and Palestinians in Amsterdam, pointing to high tensions and unrest prior to the nighttime attacks.

Pro-Palestinan activists have claimed that the Maccabi Tel Aviv fans were the first to engage in harassment and violence, saying they assaulted Arabs in the city and vandalized Palestinian flags.

Israeli fans could be heard chanting “We’ll **** the Arabs,” and “**** you Palestine” in video footage circulating on social media, although it was not immediately clear when the footage had been captured.

Video footage shows Israeli soccer fans taunting Arabs in Amsterdam with anti-Palestinian chants

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www.timesofisrael.com

Also:

Footage has been posted on social media showing Maccabi Tel Aviv fans chanting racist slogans against Arabs upon arriving at Ben Gurion Airport from Amsterdam where hundreds came under attack from pro-Palestinian mobs last night.

The article then cites some of the chants:

“IDF will **** the arabs
Why is school out in Gaza? There are no children left there”

Maccabi fans filmed chanting racist slogans against Arabs upon arrival at Ben Gurion from Amsterdam

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www.timesofisrael.com

Antisemitic violence is vile and reprehensible, and so are anti-Arab racism and support for mass murder. All of those involved in either deserve condemnation.

 

[Debater Slayer]

What happened again? Oh right Maccabi fans said mean things [...]

The chants I quoted in my previous post went far beyond "mean things"; they were blatantly racist and supportive of mass murder, including of Palestinian children.

Both the antisemitic violence and the racist chanting were abhorrent, and I see zero need to minimize or downplay either in order to condemn the other.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not to mention that the whole accusation of "genocide" is bunk.

Israel's mass murder & destruction, when coupled with
intent to send Palestinians to Africa, & then move Jews
into Gaza fits the 1948 UN definition of "genocide".
The Zionist refusal to acknowledge this speaks only to
fanaticism & inhumanity towards Muslims as lesser humans.

 

[Godobeyer]

This. The pro-p*lestinian terrorist's knew that an israeli team was coming to town and pre-planned this to attack as many innocent Jewish people as possible.

I hope anyone who laid a finger on a Jewish person will beto jail for a very very long time.

Israeli fans whom began,and they are the terrorists .

In one video, Israeli supporters were heard singing:

“Let the IDF win, and **** the Arabs!,” referring to the Israeli army’s offensive on Gaza. Another video captured a fan screaming: “**** you terrorists, Sinwar die, everybody die,” in reference to the Hamas leader who was killed last month.

The Israeli fans instigated the violence after arriving in the city and attacking Palestinian supporters before the match, an Amsterdam city council member said.

“They began attacking houses of people in Amsterdam with Palestinian flags, so that’s actually where the violence started,” Councilman Jazie Veldhuyzen told Al Jazeera on Friday.

“As a reaction, Amsterdammers mobilised themselves and countered the attacks that started on Wednesday by the Maccabi hooligans.”

Israeli football fans clash with protesters in Amsterdam

Amsterdam city council member says ‘Maccabi hooligans’ instigated violence and attacked Palestinian supporters.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Revoltingest]

Israeli fans whom began,and they are the terrorists .

In one video, Israeli supporters were heard singing: “Let the IDF win, and f*** the Arabs!,” referring to the Israeli army’s offensive on Gaza. Another video captured a fan screaming: “F*** you terrorists, Sinwar die, everybody die,” in reference to the Hamas leader who was killed last month.

The Israeli fans instigated the violence after arriving in the city and attacking Palestinian supporters before the match, an Amsterdam city council member said.

“They began attacking houses of people in Amsterdam with Palestinian flags, so that’s actually where the violence started,” Councilman Jazie Veldhuyzen told Al Jazeera on Friday.

“As a reaction, Amsterdammers mobilised themselves and countered the attacks that started on Wednesday by the Maccabi hooligans.”

Israeli football fans clash with protesters in Amsterdam

Amsterdam city council member says ‘Maccabi hooligans’ instigated violence and attacked Palestinian supporters.

www.aljazeera.com

In western culture, that side of the conflict is ignored.
Why?
Jews are saints & victims only.
Muslims are violent anti-semites who can't be reasoned with.
These views are the lens thru which news is filtered.

 

[Godobeyer]

In western culture, that side of the conflict is ignored.
Why?
Jews are saints & victims only.
Muslims are violent anti-semites who can't be reasoned with.
These views are the lens thru which news is filtered.

The Western media show the half of story .
there are 15 000 Jews live there , no one touch them.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Both the antisemitic violence and the racist chanting were abhorrent, and I see zero need to minimize or downplay either in order to condemn the other.

Precisely.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

@Godobeyer :

I notice that you 'liked' post #50 by @Debater Slayer. Do you acknowledge his final sentence?​

 

[Godobeyer]

@Godobeyer :

I notice that you 'liked' post #50 by @Debater Slayer. Do you acknowledge his final sentence?​

As i understand he mean both sides Moroccans and Israelis.
Should not use hate chanting.

The reports said Israelis fans whom provoked first Moroccan home, he just called for help.

I wonder if you know that Israelis fans used racist against Arabs, which consider also anti semitic?
This is Holland woman tell the story:

 

[Debater Slayer]

As i understand he mean both sides Moroccans and Israelis.
Should not use hate chanting.

I meant that the violent attacks on some Israeli fans and the racist chanting from some Israeli fans are both horrible and should be condemned as such.

 

[Godobeyer]

I meant that the violent attacks on some Israeli fans and the racist chanting from some Israeli fans are both horrible and should be condemned as such.

That's it.
Agreed.
It's seems Israelis fans whom provoke first.

Is not funny whom always crying from racist idealogy "anti semitic" chants racist!!

 

[RestlessSoul]

You don't go to Italian football matches I guess.

Exactly. I've been to enough football matches to know what can happen when visiting supporters get loud and aggressive on someone else's turf. And there are particular places in Europe - Amsterdam, Naples, Rome, Istanbul, Leeds, parts of London - where you especially don't do that.