It’s hard for me to believe that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and their supporters do not secretly wish

[PureX]

I hope you're right, or I see a Handmaid's Tale.

I hope so as well.

I keep thinking that the U.S. population is WAY too selfish, arrogant, and spoiled to ever put up with a real fascist dictator. Yet on the other hand, we are only too happy to sacrifice each other to their cause so long as we're not the ones being sacrificed, and maybe we get something from it. So who knows.

Growing up I never would have imagined that my fellow Americans would be so willing to follow this kind of fascist idiocy, but I was born just AFTER the McCarthy era and all that insanity. And they never taught us about the riots and bloodletting that went on during the fight for labor unions and worker's rights in this country back in the teens and twenties. So I didn't realize that we have a history of fascist tendencies and would-be dictators popping up periodically and using their lies and fear-mongering to try and take control.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There is that too... although I don't know how I feel about that possibility.

How sane a candidate are we talking about? Are there any still left in the Republican Party?


It would be nice to see Kamala and Walz run against a Republican ticket that promises, say, to contain fracking, to combat Climate Change and to take steps to better integrate migrants.

But just in typing that I feel that I might as well ask them to offer Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny as candidates.

I can remember a time when Republicans ran on fiscal responsibility. Even that would be a wild change from the situation today.

(Yes, I'm old)

 

[muhammad_isa]

one of the two Republican gun men had done better.

I don't like or agree with Trump one bit .. and neither do I agree with the circulation of
assault rifles in civil society.

..but wishing he was dead? Absolutely not.
Who knows, somebody even worse might take his place.

In any case, people actually have to vote for him, and clearly, he is standing because
the Republican party think he has a chance of winning.
People get what they vote for.

 

[F1fan]

I wish Trump supporters were critical thinkers.

 

[Jimmy]

Mo money in the pocket with trump, He’s gonna win by a landslide.

 

[Wirey]

The key is to beat him at the ballot box and let everyone see him as a loser. Shoot him, and he's a martyr. He plays loser better. So please, if you're a whacked-out lefty with poor aim, unload the gun, feel shame about how rich and white you are, plug in the Nissan Leaf you bought three years ago but can't afford, put more kale and broccolini in that sad little salad you got at Whole Foods, and stay home!

 

[Pogo]

I wish Trump supporters were critical thinkers.

is well known enough to be assumed.
* A variant popularized by the science fiction novel, Dune, is "If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets."
* A vulgar American variation is the following: "Wish in one hand and **** in the other and see which one fills up quicker."[citation needed]
* A less common variant puts on a whimsical twist: "If wishes were fishes, beggars would fly." The implied idea is that if wishing made it so, one could ride a flying fish.
* A variant from a 1890 teacher's manual goes thus: "If wishes were butter-cakes, beggars might bite."
* The 1971 Broadway musical "Inner City," devised and directed by Tom O'Horgan from Eve Merriam's book "The Inner City Mother Goose," included a song that began: "If wishes were horses, then beggars would ride, and rich man and poor man in peace would abide." This short-lived show featured Linda Hopkins, Delores Hall, Paulette Ellen Jones and Carl Hall, among others.[3]
* In her 1989 song "Brave and Crazy," Melissa Etheridge alters the line slightly to read, "If wishes were horses This beggar would ride."
* In the Firefly episode "Objects in Space", Jayne says "If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak."
* In her 2008 song, Lucinda Williams alters the proverb to say "If wishes were horses, I'd have a ranch."
* In Loudon Wainwright III's 1997 song "The World": "What a wonderful world it would be, if wishes were horses, maybe."
* In Stigler and Friedland's 1962 paper "What Can Regulators Regulate? The Case of Electricity": "And if wishes were horses, one would buy stock in a harness factory." By this peculiar thing they banished they are implying that regulation is for the benefit of the regulated which falls under the public choice theory (as opposed to the public interest theory).
* In an episode of the American TV show "The Simpsons," the bartender Moe remarks, "If wishes were horses, I'd be eating wish-meat every night."
* In November 2010, Alexandrea Mellen altered the proverb to say "If wishes were horses, the horse industry would collapse."

 

[Pogo]

Mo money in the pocket with trump, He’s gonna win by a landslide.

Yes Trump's cuts would put more money in your pocket, now see where you fall on this chart and tell us how much his tariffs would take out.

Something tells me you are not in that last category on the right, not sure even Trump really is.
If trump actually understands how tariffs would affect the economy he is lying, more likely he just doesn't understand as economists keep trying to tell him.

 

[Kathryn]

I don't like or agree with Trump one bit .. and neither do I agree with the circulation of
assault rifles in civil society.

..but wishing he was dead? Absolutely not.
Who knows, somebody even worse might take his place.

In any case, people actually have to vote for him, and clearly, he is standing because
the Republican party think he has a chance of winning.
People get what they vote for.

Some would say that every country has the government it deserves to have.

 

[Father Heathen]

I would prefer Trump go out slipping on a banana peel.

 

[Father Heathen]

Mo money in the pocket with trump, He’s gonna win by a landslide.

Nah, the American people tossed his worthless *** out last election, and he hasn't gotten any less worthless since then.

 

[Jimmy]

Yes Trump's cuts would put more money in your pocket, now see where you fall on this chart and tell us how much his tariffs would take out.

Something tells me you are not in that last category on the right, not sure even Trump really is.
If trump actually understands how tariffs would affect the economy he is lying, more likely he just doesn't understand as economists keep trying to tell him.

Mo money

 

[Argentbear]

one of the two Republican gun men had done better.

why would they want that?

 

[Argentbear]

Vance is all about public exposure. Before this, very few people knew who he was and now nearly everyone knows who he is.

But not in a good way

 

[Father Heathen]

I wish Trump supporters were critical thinkers.

The two are mutually exclusive.

 

[Kathryn]

But not in a good way

I wouldn't know - I pay very little attention to him.

 

[F1fan]

I really do hope for the sake of America that their bubble bursts before the election

There doesn’t seem to be any prediction of who will win. The polls are incredibly close, which I can’t understand. With Trump behaving like a guy who wants to lose the election, but is still in the mix to win, the results could be a massive win for either candidate. If Trump wins and he does what he’s been suggesting it could be worse than what his supporters realize. It will certainly be a time of chaos and instability, and the economy will suffer.

 

[Pogo]

Mo money

Did you understand it or are you really claiming to be in the top 1% if earners in the country?

For example if you made 100,000$ last year without deductions you would owe 17,000 dollars in taxes, Trump's tax cut reduction would be about 1.5% or maybe a little more for about 250$ optimistically, yes mo money for you to spend, but his tariffs would cost you about 2600$ due to the increase in the cost of things like phones and TVs and game controllers down to pots and pans and air-conditioners. Heck even the cost of a car from Ford or Chevy would go up probably more than that considering the number of parts made in China in it.

Yes, Trump is promising more money, but he is also promising to take even more away unless you are one of the elite.
That is even before it comes time to pay back the credit card that he is using to buy this when as you know, they will loan you money at whatever rate, but eventually you have to pay back the cash price plus all the accrued interest.
Don't be a sucker to the offer in your mailbox.

 

[Revoltingest]

one of the two Republican gun men had done better.

It's hard for me to believe this warranted a thread.

 

[Revoltingest]

I disagree. A lot of people had read Hillbilly Elegy (and more probably saw the movie). I think this was more a calculated step into the quicksand so he can take over when fatty-fatty-two-by-four rides the Big Coronary into the Sky. He came from nothing and is now rich. Speaking as someone from a similar background, nothing makes a poor person want more money than having some money.

I recall a fascinating article about the nouveau poor.
Would Vance not allow them to play "poke the rat"?