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[BeautifulMind]

The actual existence of God. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

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[jewscout]

The actual existence of God. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

i suppose that's why they call it faith

 

[jonny]

The actual existence of God. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

What story are you referring to?

 

[michel]

The actual existence of God. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

Hi BeautifulMind,

I notice this is your first post here, and I'd like to welcome you to the forum;

We have an article with links for our newer members,
put together by Feathersinhair;
perhaps you'd like to post on :- Are you new to ReligiousForums.com? to introduce yourself to the other members.

As for your question; the only answer I can give is the same as Jewscout's; Faith.

 

[Whitsuntide]

BM,
Welcome.
I believe that just because we'll never know if there is a God, points to the fact that there is one.
More if you care to hear it.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I believe that just because we'll never know if there is a God, points to the fact that there is one.

And some people believe in astrology, alien abductions, and Bigfoot. At issue is whether or not a particular belief is cogent. It may be, in your case, but you've certainly failed to demonstrate it.

 

[Valjean]

BM,
Welcome.
I believe that just because we'll never know if there is a God, points to the fact that there is one.
More if you care to hear it.

Does the fact that we'll never know weather Poseidon rules beneath the waves or Thor rules the heavens support the probability of their existence ?

Is the converse true? Is the fact that I can go to the zoo or to Africa and personally observe huge grey animals picking up objects with their long, snakelike noses evidence that such beasts don't exist?

Please explain the reasoning in your assertion, Whitsuntide. Frankly, it escapes me?

 

[Malus 12:9]

I believe that just because we'll never know if there is a God, points to the fact that there is one.

What kind of statement is this to base a belief on? :areyoucra We will never know if Loch Ness creature exists, so therefore, it does? We will never know if Satan had dethroned God, so therefore Satan dethroned God?:help:

 

[ThisShouldMakeSense]

What kind of statement is this to base a belief on? :areyoucra We will never know if Loch Ness creature exists, so therefore, it does? We will never know if Satan had dethroned God, so therefore Satan dethroned God?:help:

i thought that too...if you can't prove it, it's proof? uhm....riiiight...

 

[Merlin]

What story are you referring to?

Pick one, there are dozens.

It is not necessary to suspend logic to believe in God. Just accept the myths as early versions of parables. They contain clues, but they are not literal.

 

[Bennettresearch]

And some people believe in astrology, alien abductions, and Bigfoot. At issue is whether or not a particular belief is cogent. It may be, in your case, but you've certainly failed to demonstrate it.

Wait a minute Deut, are you saying Bigfoot does not exist? There are recordings of screams in the forest which sound a lot like Howard Dean's yell at his famous political rally.

 

[Bennettresearch]

The actual existence of God. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

Hi BM,

The road to knowledge begins with doubt. Maybe I can throw the Ball back in your court. Prove to me definitively that there isn't a God. Tell me why we have a higher consciousness and why a world exists that is habitable for us to lead our lives on. Everyone who dismisses a belief in God as being the same as believing in faerie tales is not providing any alternate solution to the question. I doubt that it is an accident, prove to me that it is.

 

[Malus 12:9]

Merlin,

If one were to believe the "early myths" as parables, to claim their belief in God (or whoever)
as valid, one could state that vampire myths were true.The origin of Slavic vampire myths developed during 9th C as a result of conflict between pre-Christian paganism and Christianity. Christianity won out with the vampires and other pagan beliefs surviving in folklore.

In your theories Merlin, if Christianity exists, Vampires exist

 

[Bennettresearch]

In your theories Merlin, if Christianity exists, Vampires exist

Hi Malus,

Actually, Vampires do exist. I run into people trying to suck my life force out of me every day.

 

[Malus 12:9]

I don't know what you meant Bennet, but I shall pass

 

[Fascist Christ]

The actual existence of God [is uncertain]. So, my question is: How can someone be so faithful and absolute about something that lacks evidence when the entire story seems so artificial.

For me, it matters not if what we believe is true, but how we apply that idea to our everyday lives. For me, "god" is an ideal to aspire to. The presumption beginning, and ending, with the idea that this is the best of all possible worlds/universes, intelligently designed. It is from the sole assumption that I derive a corresponding philosophy.

Since I do not worship, nor pray to, nor fear god, I do not subject myself to the servitude that other faiths enjoy. The purpose of my belief is not to be right or wrong, but to be like the ideal that I have envisioned in my brain.

 

[Merlin]

Merlin,

If one were to believe the "early myths" as parables, to claim their belief in God (or whoever)
as valid, one could state that vampire myths were true.The origin of Slavic vampire myths developed during 9th C as a result of conflict between pre-Christian paganism and Christianity. Christianity won out with the vampires and other pagan beliefs surviving in folklore.

In your theories Merlin, if Christianity exists, Vampires exist

Sorry my friend, I have obviously confused you about what I meant. I do not think the early myths are true. I mean that they carry meaning within the story. The trick is to extract the real meaning from the simplistic myth itself.

I gave an example of the Adam and Eve myth in another thread. I think it has a completely different meaning than the one pedalled normally.

 

[Merlin]

For me, it matters not if what we believe is true, but how we apply that idea to our everyday lives. For me, "god" is an ideal to aspire to. The presumption beginning, and ending, with the idea that this is the best of all possible worlds/universes, intelligently designed. It is from the sole assumption that I derive a corresponding philosophy.

Since I do not worship, nor pray to, nor fear god, I do not subject myself to the servitude that other faiths enjoy. The purpose of my belief is not to be right or wrong, but to be like the ideal that I have envisioned in my brain.

Well said. One of the first people to admit that we all manufacture the god we want to have.

 

[Malus 12:9]

The trick is to extract the real meaning from the simplistic myth itself

Perhaps you can volunteer to do so.

 

[Merlin]

Perhaps you can volunteer to do so.

Sorry, I do not understand what you are saying in this one. are you saying you want an example?