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It's time......to rename the Republican Party

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, and second in line of succession to the Presidency, turned up outside the courthouse in New York where Trump's trial is ongoing, to call it an illegitmate sham trial and entirely political. Outside the New York courthouse, he decried “this ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice.” He said, “It’s all about politics.”

Is it not time to retire the name "Republican Party" and replace it with a more honest "Trumplican Toadies."
That is out of line. We need a name that reflects their mentality. So, stooping to Republican levels I propose:

The Re-puke-again Party.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I mean... while I internally refer to the modern Republican Party as the Death Party because their policies more or less encourage callous disregard for both human and especially non-human life, until they themselves rename the party it is a basic common courtesy to use the name for themselves that they grant to themselves. In any case, the label/word/thing placed on something is largely irrelevant compared to the substance that it points to. I care less what a group of humans calls themselves - political or otherwise - compared to what they actually do.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
One fact does not a trend make! I have never, ever given one instance of some person of whatever party, race, colour, religion or what-have-you, and use that as an example to state that said instance must therefore apply to others of the same party, race, colour, religion, etc.

You used ONE EXAMPLE to conclude "Seems there are still plenty of racist Democrats ..."
You and me can churn out examples of racist Democrats and Republicans till kingdom come.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, and second in line of succession to the Presidency, turned up outside the courthouse in New York where Trump's trial is ongoing, to call it an illegitmate sham trial and entirely political. Outside the New York courthouse, he decried “this ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice.” He said, “It’s all about politics.”

Is it not time to retire the name "Republican Party" and replace it with a more honest "Trumplican Toadies."
I don't know about the name, you can choose that freely. What I'm advocating for (for some time now) is to stop referring to the pubs as "conservative" (and the dems as "liberal"). The Democrats are the real conservatives by the definition, the Republicans are regressive.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, and second in line of succession to the Presidency, turned up outside the courthouse in New York where Trump's trial is ongoing, to call it an illegitimate sham trial and entirely political. Outside the New York courthouse, he decried “this ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice.” He said, “It’s all about politics.”
"It's all about politics" even when it should be about something else, such as law enforcement. And of course, they claim that the indictments are politically motivated when they are what the Justice Department exists to do - investigate crime and punish criminals without fear or favor.

That was a visible demonstration of the Congressional Republicans failing in their role as a check on the executive as was the unwillingness to convict Trump twice in Senate trials following impeachments from what was then a Democratic House.

And the willingness of the Supreme Court to stall for Trump by pretending that there is merit to claims of presidential immunity to crimes absent a congressional impeachment and conviction is the Court's expression of its failure and unwillingness to serve as a check on the executive.

There goes another plank in basic Americanism - separation of powers and checks and balances. They've targeted democracy, rule of law, church-state separation, and egalitarianism as well. These are enemies of America and Americanism. That's what America's enemies do. That's what arch-enemy Putin wants for America.

It's both dangerous and embarrassing watching these people fawning over a cult leader.

And there is no reason to think it ends with Trump's demise. Look at the rogue's gallery of Republican VP hopefuls, eager to replace him as the next Republican antidemocratic demagogue. The don't love Trump. They're just hoping to ride his coattails into replacing him when he's gone and forgotten.
 
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It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You and me can churn out examples of racist Democrats and Republicans till kingdom come.
You support the Republicans, meaning that you don't object to racism. You oppose that party that promotes egalitarianism and tolerance. Yet here you posture as somebody that objects to the racism of the early Democratic Party.

It's an accident of history that the early Republicans were the liberators of the slaves when the Democrats were in opposition to them and trying to defend slavery. Todays Republicans get zero credit for that and todays Democrats get zero blame for the party's past. But here you are trying to blame today's Democrats anyway implying that they are also racist as you hold water for the modern racist party.

Do you think that you are credible making this argument? Do you think that those opposed to racism will blame today's Democrats because racists used to call themselves Democrats?
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
I've thought this one for quite a while, and I'm surprised that I haven't seen it suggested.

It would take moving just one letter in their slogan, easily done to a certain red hat with scissors and a needle and thread.

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
I've thought this one for quite a while, and I'm surprised that I haven't seen it suggested.

It would take moving just one letter in their slogan, easily done to a certain red hat with scissors and a needle and thread.

MAKE AMERICA GRATE AGAIN
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Just use DuckDuckGo to find more. It's as old as the worldwide web.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
And there is no reason to think it ends with Trump's demise. Look at the rogue's gallery of Republican VP hopefuls, eager to replace him as the next Republican antidemocratic demagogue. The don't love Trump. They're just hoping to ride his coattails into replacing him when he's gone and forgotten.

I watched someone (name forgotten) on CNN (I think) that has written a book (title forgotten, OK I'm old). He said there is nothing new about the idea that white Christian males should be running the country, in fact it goes right back to the founding of the country. The "revolutionary" aspect of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, he said, was the idea that everyone should be treated as equal. That didn't apply to Britain, whose rule was replaced. The Southern States opposed it (no surprise, as it suggested that their slaves should be considered equal to them) but the wording survived. Even after all the advances in civil rights that have been made up to this time, the feeling that there is a privileged group that are the "true Americans" is alive and well in some demographics.

No, this won't go away when Trump does. There's hope that it may splinter under competing would be leaders, and be less effective. I fear we live in "interesting times", and I'm very frightened by what may happen.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
This one goes behind spoiler tags
Senate-
House
in
Turmoil
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Yet they still use the name Democrat for their party.

They will Advocate tearing down Confederate statues, ban the Confederate flag, but still keep their Confederate name.
Very Very telling.

Not unlike the name Republican which doesn't have a very controversial history that would warrant a name change.

Too bad you completely ignore the facts.
You're just spouting two different varieties of nonsense here.

Whatever the history of how the Democrat Party came by their name, the name is still valid. Democracy has a very specific meaning and the Party, flawed as it is, has consistently shown a modicum of respect and interest in the expression of that.

Meanwhile, "Republic" has an even more dignified meaning, which the so-called Republican Party plainly does not respect at all anymore.

As for the Confederation... whatch'a want, boy?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, and second in line of succession to the Presidency, turned up outside the courthouse in New York where Trump's trial is ongoing, to call it an illegitmate sham trial and entirely political. Outside the New York courthouse, he decried “this ridiculous prosecution that is not about justice.” He said, “It’s all about politics.”

Is it not time to retire the name "Republican Party" and replace it with a more honest "Trumplican Toadies."
Fascists. That's what they're called.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
What is so weird to me about all this is that all these republicans want to be in politics SO BADLY that they are willing to humiliate themselves, sell out the American people, and sell out any principals they imagine themselves having in the most obvious and public way. What about being a politician is so wonderful that these people are willing to sacrifice everything they are as human beings just to hold onto it?
 
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